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Originally posted by VargI would like to have played every pawn star black and white. It just gives you a good reflection of how good /bad you are by playing people who are serious enough about playing to have payed the joining fee.
One big advantage to this is that usually you know they will finish games i.e. not sign on the site, start a game then disappear.
Also, there are plenty of non-pawn stars for non-pawn stars to play.
If I make an open invite I'll accept anybody though.
Andrew
Originally posted by latex bishopYou hit it on the button Andrew.I will explain later.Hopefully more people will join this thread.
I would like to have played every pawn star black and white. It just gives you a good reflection of how good /bad you are by playing people who are serious enough about playing to have payed the joining fee.
Andrew
Potentially, yes - playing only pawn stars has advantages, but there are disadvantages to yourself & to the site. I like to think that manny non-PS's are just PS's who haven't realised their mistake yet, & people not playing them won't encourage them to get a star. Plus I don't like to limit the number of different people I could meet, and whereas I do think that 95% of people who can afford a PC and a net connection can afford the subscription, there are people who still can't who may be serious about chess or even just seriously nice people to play against.
Originally posted by belgianfreakbut all those children-and players who play in libraries...
Potentially, yes - playing only pawn stars has advantages, but there are disadvantages to yourself & to the site. I like to think that manny non-PS's are just PS's who haven't realised their mistake yet, & people not playing them won't encourage them to get a star. Plus I don't like to limit the number of different people I could meet, and whereas ...[text shortened]... still can't who may be serious about chess or even just seriously nice people to play against.
Originally posted by Dr. BrainI don't agree with this at all. Many non pawn-stars are beginners who want to see how much they are enjoying the site before they commit themselves to paying out. I myself played 20 odd games before deciding to become a pawn star. Now if these players can't find any more established players to compete with, they may well look elsewhere for sites where they can. Also, not everyone can be obsessive about chess, and some members of the site may just want to play the odd game now and then. I don't see why these people should be moralised (and discriminated) against, just because they haven't paid.
I have been giving this some thought.Anyone else feel the same way?
Johan
(Wearing a suit of armour and riding a fresh horse)
If Chris and Russ decide to make it a pay-only site, that's up to them. But until then, I don't think non-pawn stars are doing anything wrong by taking up the site's hospitality and I don't see why the payers and non-payers can't happily co-exist.
Rich.
Originally posted by richhoeyout of all the people that have posted so far, i have to agree with rich the most..it took me 2-3 months after joining to become a pawn star (and the only reason i was able to become a pawn star was because it was a christmas present..if it weren't for that, i probably wouldn't be a pawn star today)! the that aren't pawn stars aren't for a reason! there are alot of people that are very active and are very dedicated and very obsessed with this site that are non-pawn stars..i think some of you need to give all the non-pawn stars a break!!
I don't agree with this at all. Many non pawn-stars are beginners who want to see how much they are enjoying the site before they commit themselves to paying out. I myself played 20 odd games before deciding to become a pawn star. Now if ...[text shortened]... ee why the payers and non-payers can't happily co-exist.
Rich.
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Originally posted by richhoeyRich,
I don't agree with this at all. Many non pawn-stars are beginners who want to see how much they are enjoying the site before they commit themselves to paying out. I myself played 20 odd games before deciding to become a pawn star. Now if ...[text shortened]... ee why the payers and non-payers can't happily co-exist.
Rich.
I think another way of putting it would be...
Do we prefer just to play chess, thus it does not matter who you play since the oppenent is just part of the game, or is who we play more important than the game itself. If it was just about the chess I would probably not still be here. I am not that good to be honest and the only thing that has made we want to stay and improve is the fact that I play people I like. The chess is just the place where we meet.
The majority of people who get involved in the forums, I have played many games against for many months, the ones who are always there and like a good chat tend to be pawn stars. There are many great people on this site who are not pawn stars, who are bright, charming and a joy to play. Particular mention goes to Petrobas and Hynoddy who destroyed me in every game, and Therin, dewald, diggerz, Ender, and NamuF3 were all great prople to play... but given the fact that they can only play 6 games at anyone time it is a lot harder to build the relationships that being a pawn star allows.
Also, there are a great majority of non-pawn stars who only play a few games and dissapear, who take open invites then hardly move, who really have not bought into the site in anyway and really do not want to. I tend to find these games a bit unsatisfactory and generally find myself a bit bored with the mid game, in a lot of ways hoping they would time out so I could start a game that was more fun. I am sure I am not the only player who has a sense of trepedation when an open invite is accepted by a non-pawn star player on a 1200 rating who has completed no games. I do not care about loosing to them and all that silly stigma about ratings, but I do care about the fact that the game may not be fun.
Any game we play on this site is an investment in our time, it is fair to want a return in some form on that investment.
Personally I would like to play every pawn star over time, but I am by no means exclusive in this. Variety is the spice of life, but we all like old friends.
Andrew
I really think that a simple solution to this would be to evaluate your opponent before you play. If the prospective opponent has played, oh,let's say a dozen games, then odds are they will finish the next one. I really don't think it needs to be so complicated, but I don't blame you for being discouraged at people that don't follow through.
If it's really become a problem, then I would suggest that you just refrain from playing "newbies". If you do feel like you have to abstain from playing the "star impaired", well then I guess that's just what you have to do. Just remember that there are folk like me that are a pretty sure bet, star or no. I really feel like it would be a shame to miss out on a good game and/or discussion with someone because of their star status, but I guess we all have to set standards to make this place enjoyable for us. Anyway, good luck with whatever you guys decide. 🙂