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Red Sox will win in 7 games wrapping up the curse in the rightful place Fenway park. I can envision all the sox of the later year running out onto the field to celebrate. Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Dwight Evans Jim Rice, Mike Greenwell, Wade Boggs, Carl Yastremski. Roger Clemens, Oil Can Boyd, Lee Smith, Bob Stanley, Al Nipper, Bill Buckner, Marty Barrett, Todd Besinger, Scott Cooper,Tony Pena, Lou Castiglione,Babe Ruth, Cy Young, Ricky Henderson, Dennis Eckersly, Otis Nixon, Ellis Burks, Jody Reed and everyone else I have failed to mention will run out onto the field in celebration.

Please feel free to list your predictions and any other players who have played for the sox throughout the years. I cant remember them all so list who you can remember

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Buckner?

You named Buckner?!?

I would like to add Butch Hobson.

And I just want my guys to finally win the Series!

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OK, so if anyone can tell me how the system really works, because I thought the Sox already won... 😕

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Originally posted by LivingLegend
OK, so if anyone can tell me how the system really works, because I thought the Sox already won... 😕

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Ok, Olie!

There are 2 leagues... American (Yankees and Red Sox / other teams)
and there is the National league (Astros and Cardinals / other teams)

American league uses a designated hitter to bat for the pitcher (pitchers can't hit, they spend too much time throwing)

In the National league pitchers do bat! So that is always an easy out for the other team's pitcher!

So. This week we now know who won from each league. Sox won their pennant, and are American League Champs. St. Louis Cardinals won the National League.

Now these 2 teams play a best of 7. 2 games played at Boston, 3 in St. Louis, and back to Boston for the final 2 if needed!

When Boston visits in St. Louis the pitchers will need to bat. When St. Louis plays in Boston, they can use a designated batter to hit for the pitcher.

Whoever gets 4 wins first will be 'world champs'. Red sox have not done this since 1918!

Hope that helps.

Trav

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AS a Blue Jay fan I have sworn to cheer against any AL East team besides the Jays. BUT I can't help but share the excitement of the Boston fans. And seeing Boston win this year will be a huge boost for the sport itself. Go RED SOX! (God, I never thought I'd say that!)

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I am going to have to go with the BoSox in the Series. They played like their hair was on fire in the play-offs and I think they wi8ll carry that mooentum rihgt into the series. They may even take it 4-0.

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Originally posted by deathbypawn
Red Sox will win in 7 games wrapping up the curse in the rightful place Fenway park. I can envision all the sox of the later year running out onto the field to celebrate. Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Dwight Evans Jim Rice, Mike Greenwell, Wade Boggs, Carl Yastremski. Roger Clemens, Oil Can Boyd, Lee Smith, Bob Stanley, Al Nipper, Bill Buckner, Marty Barre ...[text shortened]... e played for the sox throughout the years. I cant remember them all so list who you can remember
I would like to add McNamara the manager who lost the series in 1986 when took out Rooger Clemens in the 7th.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
Ok, Olie!

There are 2 leagues... American (Yankees and Red Sox / other teams)
and there is the National league (Astros and Cardinals / other teams)

American league uses a designated hitter to bat for the pitcher (pitchers can't hit, they spend too much time throwing)

In the National league pitchers do bat! So that is always an easy out for the ...[text shortened]... st will be 'world champs'. Red sox have not done this since 1918!

Hope that helps.

Trav
Thanks, T! 🙂

Makes sense, actually. Nice system! 🙂

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How about Jim Lonborg, Tony Conigliaro, George Scott, Sparky Lyle, Galen Cisco, Ken Brett, Jose Santiago, Elston Howard, Rico Petrocelli and Ken Harrelson? Couldn't have made in in '67 without them!

Haven't made a prediction about this Series as yet. I'm a National League fan, but the Sox are my favorite American League team. The sox would seem to have the edge in starting pitchers. They need to get into the Cards bullpen early. But that Cardinal lineup fron 1-8, can do some damage....I think it goes seven games with the winner being...........🙄

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Originally posted by turtlex
Buckner?

You named Buckner?!?

I would like to add Butch Hobson.

And I just want my guys to finally win the Series!
How can you not include Buckner he is very instrumental in the sox getting to the series that year. True he made a error. But people forget that he won the batting title that year as well as a gold glove makeing the fewest amount of errors at his position in the entire major leagues. 3 errors in the whole season. It was one mistake the sox could have rectified it but failed oppurtunity, besides it made Mookie Wilson Famous in New York. That ball that rolled between Buckners legs sold in new york for 4.5 million dollars, signed by both buckner and mookie wilson. The money was then given to charity for kids with cancer.

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Originally posted by darvlay
AS a Blue Jay fan I have sworn to cheer against any AL East team besides the Jays. BUT I can't help but share the excitement of the Boston fans. And seeing Boston win this year will be a huge boost for the sport itself. Go RED SOX! (God, I never thought I'd say that!)
Thanx Darvlay, but I will be very sad if you don't get the full experiance of being a 'Red Sox Fan'. You see, if they win this year... you will not have the full 'Red Sox Experiance'. The best part of being a Sox fan is wondering when the hammer will drop. How will the Sox screw it all up again?! That is what being a Sox fan is all about.

So, either way... as a life time Sox fan I can be happy. Win or lose... it will be great!

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Originally posted by LivingLegend
Thanks, T! 🙂

Makes sense, actually. Nice system! 🙂

O.
To confuse matters further, the American League (AL) and National League (NL) are each split into East, Central and West divisions. Each team plays all other teams in their league during the regular season, but play the ones in their own division more often than those in the other two. At the end of the regular season, the top team in each division, along with the best runner up go into the playoffs. So that's four teams from the AL and four from the NL.

As mentioned above the two eventual winners of these play-offs meet in the World Series.

Now, my question.... in the National League, the pitchers are used to batting, whereas in the American League they are not. Does this not give a slight advantage to the National League team in the World Series?

As for my experience of baseball (being a Brit), I saw the Red Sox at Fenway Park last month while on holiday. They beat the Orioles. I found it fascinating! Go Red Sox!!!

Richard.

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Originally posted by fawcr01
To confuse matters further, the American League (AL) and National League (NL) are each split into East, Central and West divisions. Each team plays all other teams in their league during the regular season, but play the ones in their own division more often than those in the other two. At the end of the regular season, the top team in each division, along ...[text shortened]... th while on holiday. They beat the Orioles. I found it fascinating! Go Red Sox!!!

Richard.
Wow, great post about baseball for a Brit! You saw the Sox beat Baltimore... you got lucky! Baltimore was a thorn for Sox this year.

Here is a standings page to see all divisions from each league:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/standings

Here is a page to see how the Wild Card was won in each league:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/standings?type=wild+card

And here is the Playoffs:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/playoffs

As for National teams having an advantage... I'm not so sure! National Pitchers expect an easy out every couple innings throwing against the other pitcher... next thing you know they are pitching to the best batter on a team rather than a pitcher! I think that can get to a pitcher's head more than if you get an easy out against a pitcher.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit


As for National teams having an advantage... I'm not so sure! National Pitchers expect an easy out every couple innings throwing against the other pitcher... next thing you know they are pitching to the best batter on a team rather than a pitcher! I think that can get to a pitcher's head more than if you get an easy out against a pitcher.

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Another thing you have to realize is that an NL manager has more decisions to make than does an AL manager. During a close game, an NL manager may be presented with a difficult decision about whether to take out his starting pitcher as early as the 5th inning, no mater how well he's been pitching. For instance, in a scoreless game, with runners on 2nd and 3rd and two out in the 5th inning, with the pitcher batting, what do you do? You can't reasonably hope your pitcher will come through and deliver these two runs home, but you also hate to remove a pitcher who has been lights out so far. An AL manager is never forced to make decisions like these.

Also, managing in the NL effectively requires skillful use of the double-switch. For those unfamiliar with it, the double-switch is used to temporarily strengthen the team's batting lineup, and the downside is usually a slight downgrade on defense. Here's how it works: the team employing the double switch is in the field. The manager makes two substitutions, one involving his pitcher (who is due up the next inning), and one involving a position player (who is not scheduled to bat very soon). Officially, the new position player (who most likely is better known for his offense than his defense) takes the place of the pitcher, and the relief pitcher takes the place of the old position player. All this means is that the new position player will bat in the pitcher's spot next inning, and the relief pitcher will move to the old position player's spot in the lineup. I hope I haven't managed to confuse anyone.
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I think that "The Fall Classic" is a great name for the series, much better than the World Series. After all, it's not really a world series is it?

OK, I concede that you do let a couple of Canadian teams play, but that's it. What about Japan? Baseball is huge over there. Wouldn't it be fairer if the winners of the Fall Classic played the winners of the Japanese league for the World Series? Still wouldn't be world, but at least a bit more widespread. 😉

Hmmm, Japan.... haven't seen any evidence of many Japanese players on this site.

Richard. 🙂

(one edit to correct ridiculously bad grammar)

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