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On several occasions in England in the last 12 months I have had several checkout assistants call the manager to ask if they could accept the Scottish notes I was offering. Highly embarrassing and insulting. I mean, if the note was pink with yellow polka-dots and the ink came away in your hand, I could understand. But, from a distance of 12 inches they are pretty indistinguishable from their English counterparts.
They are legal tender , but only after much humming and hawing.

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Originally posted by PeterSwan2
On several occasions in England in the last 12 months I have had several checkout assistants call the manager to ask if they could accept the Scottish notes I was offering. Highly embarrassing and insulting. I mean, if the note was pink with yellow polka-dots and the ink came away in your hand, I could understand. But, from a distance of 12 inches they ar ...[text shortened]... om their English counterparts.
They are legal tender , but only after much humming and hawing.
They are NOT legal tender, even in Scotland. But that doesn't mean they are not legally-usable currency.

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Are we splitting hairs here? Is there really such a distinction in common parlance between ''legal tender'' and ''legally-usable tender''?

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Originally posted by Redmike
...If we ever join the Euro, I understand that we've a commitment from the EU that we can continue to put a Scottish flag on the currency, which is interesting as Scotland isn't a member state (yet).
Scotland is part of the UK, which does make them a member state...

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Originally posted by PeterSwan2
Are we splitting hairs here? Is there really such a distinction in common parlance between ''legal tender'' and ''legally-usable tender''?
Maybe not in common parlance, but it is as well to be correct.


From the Bank of England website:

Are Scottish & Northern Irish notes legal tender?
In short ‘No’ these notes are not legal tender; only Bank of England notes are legal tender but only in England and Wales.
The term legal tender does not in itself govern the acceptability of banknotes in transactions. Whether or not notes have legal tender status, their acceptability as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. Legal tender has a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he owes under the terms of a contract, he has good defence in law if he is subsequently sued for non-payment of the debt. In ordinary everyday transactions, the term ‘legal tender’ has very little practical application.

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Scotland is part of the UK, which does make them a member state...
Being part of a member state is not the same as being a member state.

My point is that no other national emblems will be displayed on the EU currency, apart from those who are member states. So no Catalanian or Basque flags.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Being part of a member state is not the same as being a member state.
Scotland get the same benefits as all other members, plus same taxes, european laws, representation..etc etc.
What's not the same?

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A friend of mine got arrested in Heathrow for trying to use fake money. Except it was a legit northern bank five pound note!

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Scotland get the same benefits as all other members, plus same taxes, european laws, representation..etc etc.
What's not the same?
well, would you call yorkshire a member in it's own right?

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Originally posted by genius
well, would you call yorkshire a member in it's own right?
If you minimise everything like that, then no they are not independant members but every person in the UK is collectively "the member state". Whether we like it or not.

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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If you minimise everything like that, then no they are not independant members but every person in the UK is collectively "the member state". Whether we like it or not.
well, that is (i think) what redmike is saying. scotland is as much a member state as yorkshire. except, scotland has it's flag on it's currency...

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Originally posted by dottewell
Actually, I just did a bit of research and Scottish notes are not legal tender anywhere - even Scotland.
Correct.

http://www.siliconglen.com/Scotland/1_7.html

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My understanding when I lived is Scotland was that any bank could choose to print their own money, the only stipulation was that for every bank note printed the bank had to hold the equivelent in English currency issued by the Bank of England. The same applied in Northern Ireland.

I can't remember if the Scottish banks had to match the dominations issued by the Bank of England, i.e. you could either have a £1 coin or £1 note, so long as it was £1, or if they could go off and do their own thing i.e. £0.99 note / coin, or a £3 note.

I have never had a problem with getting rid of scottish notes in London, though I steered clear of £1 notes. Just go to a big shop like Woolworths or Tesco to change them over - unless you want to have some fun. Try a London bus :-)

Andrew

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Originally posted by Redmike
Being part of a member state is not the same as being a member state.

My point is that no other national emblems will be displayed on the EU currency, apart from those who are member states. So no Catalanian or Basque flags.
Yeah, but they're regions. Scotland is a country.

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Originally posted by genius
well, that is (i think) what redmike is saying. scotland is as much a member state as yorkshire. except, scotland has it's flag on it's currency...
Well I could have sworn he was saying Scotland weren't a member state. [yet]
Oh well I musta read it wrong!

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