Originally posted by Red Nightyeah, lets forget that there are such things as moral, ethics and justice, just because decades of military & financial support to oppressive regimes, arms dealing, invasions, assassinations and religious & racial prejudices blew up on your face and 3,000 innocent people paid for it. lets forget civil rights & constitution, and build up concentration camps, torture people, wage war against a couple of third world countries, destroy their infratructure and liberate opium trade while we're at it. because war is good, war is profits, and there's such a nice nationalistic excuse to 'justify' it all.
No matter how much you hate the US, George Bush, the Iraq War, the price of Gasoline, Exxon's profits, torture, the Patriot Act, long lines at airports, the abridgement of Habeus Corpus, illegal wire taps, or any of the myriad other subsequent events; YOU CANNOT use that hatred to justify what was a heinous crime against humanity.
hell no.
Originally posted by wormwoodIf your point is to criticize the US government for its policies, I don't think that it is appropriate to do so in a thread that was intended to be for remembering what has occured on this day.
yeah, lets forget that there are such things as moral, ethics and justice, just because decades of military & financial support to oppressive regimes, arms dealing, invasions, assassinations and religious & racial prejudices blew up on your face and 3,000 innocent people paid for it. lets forget civil rights & constitution, and build up concentration camps, ...[text shortened]... ar is profits, and there's such a nice nationalistic excuse to 'justify' it all.
hell no.
For the record, I agree with your criticisms. While they are obliquely related, I feel that this is not in good taste to level them the way you have done here because it seems that you feel that this event was justified.
Originally posted by MrHandit seems you're the one who's in the wrong thread then, the topic is not 9.11.2001, but the time after it... (although I sort of doubt that I'd pussyfoot around the subject in the other case either).
If your point is to criticize the US government for its policies, I don't think that it is appropriate to do so in a thread that was intended to be for remembering what has occured on this day.
For the record, I agree with your criticisms. While they are obliquely related, I feel that this is not in good taste to level them the way you have done here because it seems that you feel that this event was justified.
and I've never though it was justified, just that there are clear reasons why it happened. cause & effect at work.
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Originally posted by MrHandthere are bombings in china all the time. on last weekend for example, 8 dead 4 injured.
Then by that logic, it is inevitable that such a heinous crime will befall China. They torture innocents. They are exploiting Africa and, essentially supporting the Genocide in Darfur through their inaction. etc.
Originally posted by wormwood"Your memories, perspectives and thoughts"
it seems you're the one who's in the wrong thread then, the topic is not 9.11.2001, but the time after it... (although I sort of doubt that I'd pussyfoot around the subject in the other case either).
and I've never though it was justified, just that there are clear reasons why it happened. cause & effect at work.
Was the topic of the thread. I would say that is clearly a memorial tenor, not critical analysis of cause and effect.
What bombings are you referring to in China? I confess that I have no clue what you are talking about.
Originally posted by MrHandhttp://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-08/10/content_6920960.htm
What bombings are you referring to in China? I confess that I have no clue what you are talking about.
as far as I know the recent ones are all 'domestic' though. but as an example, governmental violence is always countered with more violence.
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Originally posted by wormwoodVery sad, but hardly of the scale and cause and effect of 9/11, Madrid or even London.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-08/10/content_6920960.htm
as far as I know the recent ones are all 'domestic' though. but as an example, governmental violence is always countered with more violence.
Originally posted by CrowleyReally? We seem to be paying more than ever for it. Where are we getting this "cheap oil" from? Is Iraq giving it to us for less than the normal market price?
They didn't die for nothing. Americans are getting cheap oil now.
You really are stupid Crowley.