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Has it ever been determined whether it is in good taste to offer/request a draw when the proposer is in an obvious losing position? At first glance my reaction was one of a quizical look at the position. Then it hit me. This smuck isn't trying tat levity. Its an outright insult. In all honesty, it doesn't bother me in the least, but it is such an obvious insult. How about some suggestions for a suitable response for any future such inquiries. Something really that cuts to the bone. We have some great kibitzers out there. Let me see some of that talant.

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Originally posted by Evil Pawn 666
This smuck isn't trying tat levity.
???

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Are you absolutely positive it's meant as an insult? Is it possible that your opponent is a novice who doesn't understand that they are in a blatantly lost position? Just asking, as you didn't specify their rating, experience, etc.

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Originally posted by Fleabitten
Are you absolutely positive it's meant as an insult?
Good point. Especially in an endgame, someone may see the situation as "My K v his K+p and it's already move 60, so it's probably a draw", where you see it a bit more clearly, "My K+p v his K...get my King out in front, use the opposition and push that pawn. One Queen coming up!"

Marinkatomb
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Originally posted by Evil Pawn 666
Has it ever been determined whether it is in good taste to offer/request a draw when the proposer is in an obvious losing position? At first glance my reaction was one of a quizical look at the position. Then it hit me. This smuck isn't trying tat levity. Its an outright insult. In all honesty, it doesn't bother me in the least, but it is such an ...[text shortened]... that cuts to the bone. We have some great kibitzers out there. Let me see some of that talant.
I had an opponent 400 points lower graded offer me a draw on move 15 of a game just the other day. We were barely out of the opening (i had only castled two moves earlier!) The position was level(ish) so i suppose the offer wasn't ridiculous, but considering most of his moves had come out of a database, i wasn't really interested in accepting it without having had an opportunity to test his middle game skills. Polite responses are probably best though. Mine was something along the lines of "I'm not really sure i could justify losing 11 points off my grade in this position. Maybe later..."

Grampy Bobby
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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
I had an opponent 400 points lower graded offer me a draw on move 15 of a game just the other day. We were barely out of the opening (i had only castled two moves earlier!) The position was level(ish) so i suppose the offer wasn't ridiculous, but considering most of his moves had come out of a database, i wasn't really interested in accepting it without ...[text shortened]... really sure i could justify losing 11 points off my grade in this position. Maybe later..."
"Polite responses are probably the best... "


Second.

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Originally posted by Evil Pawn 666
Has it ever been determined whether it is in good taste to offer/request a draw when the proposer is in an obvious losing position? At first glance my reaction was one of a quizical look at the position. Then it hit me. This smuck isn't trying tat levity. Its an outright insult. In all honesty, it doesn't bother me in the least, but it is such an ...[text shortened]... that cuts to the bone. We have some great kibitzers out there. Let me see some of that talant.
Response

1. A draw, what the eff makes you think I can't win?

2. Thanks for the offer but in your current position I can only forsee your demise in due course.

3. With a queen and two rooks against your King what makes you think you can draw?

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Polite responses are probably the best... "


Second.
Third.

Even if the original draw offer in question was meant to insult, what's to be gained by delivering an equally insulting response? Best in such a case to decline the draw and let your following victory do the talking.

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ive once offered a draw where i thought the game was drawing, my opponent didnt accept, we played on, i won😳

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Originally posted by zozozozo
ive once offered a draw where i thought the game was drawing, my opponent didnt accept, we played on, i won😳
I was once offered a draw, continued to play and lost... But it was an interesting game and a good learning opportunity, so I didn't regret too much that I hadn't accepted the draw.

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Originally posted by zozozozo
ive once offered a draw where i thought the game was drawing, my opponent didnt accept, we played on, i won😳
not that long ago i offered a draw in a losing position, it was declined, a few moves later my opponent made a huge blunder and handed me the game.

best thing about it was that he only needed a draw to win the group.

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