Originally posted by Bosse de NageLet you in on a little secret, Bosse. There's a mirror in the soul. Goes by various names (norms and standards, conscience, inner self
How is it remotely possible for anyone to see themselves objectively? You can play mirror games all you want, but you'll never see yourself objectively.
other constructs that suit your fancy). Look into it. See yourself for who/what you truly are. Kick your own a$$ when the image is ugly.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyStill subjective, whatever the nature of the mirror is.
Let you in on a little secret, Bosse. There's a [b]mirror in the soul. Goes by various names (norms and standards, conscience, inner self
other constructs that suit your fancy). Look into it. See yourself for who/what you truly are. Kick your own a$$ when the image is ugly.[/b]
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLet you in on a little secret, GB: the face you see in the mirror isn't your true face. Now if you know about a camera in the soul, fine and dandy, you can run the tape. Of course, a little interpretation will always be required, and that's always going to be -- subjective.
Let you in on a little secret, Bosse. There's a [b]mirror in the soul. Goes by various names (norms and standards, conscience, inner self
other constructs that suit your fancy). Look into it. See yourself for who/what you truly are. Kick your own a$$ when the image is ugly.[/b]
Originally posted by Hand of HecateHa-ha: I get it! You're using a non-existent body part (unless your problems are even worse than previously imagined) in an attempt to show how gosh-darn cool you are when compared to the object of your scorn and derision.
Genralizations are always invalid arguments.
You're such a humorless ass sack.
Dang, I wish to be as cool as you someday.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageHow can a blind man tell the sighted what something looks like? You're pretty close to the nadir of maturity and yet you deign yourself elevated to such a degree as to inform those who truly know 'what it's all about.'
Let you in on a little secret, GB: the face you see in the mirror isn't your true face. Now if you know about a camera in the soul, fine and dandy, you can run the tape. Of course, a little interpretation will always be required, and that's always going to be -- subjective.
Tell you what: when your inner life of thinking comes anywhere near the level achieved with your superficial life of useless knowledge, then--- and only then--- should you launch into any lessons about reality.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHRusty's brotherđ´
How can a blind man tell the sighted what something looks like? You're pretty close to the nadir of maturity and yet you deign yourself elevated to such a degree as to inform those who truly know 'what it's all about.'
Tell you what: when your inner life of thinking comes anywhere near the level achieved with your superficial life of useless knowledge, then--- and only then--- should you launch into any lessons about reality.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHHow sweet of you to stick up for your buddy.
How can a blind man tell the sighted what something looks like? You're pretty close to the nadir of maturity and yet you deign yourself elevated to such a degree as to inform those who truly know 'what it's all about.'
Tell you what: when your inner life of thinking comes anywhere near the level achieved with your superficial life of useless knowledge, then--- and only then--- should you launch into any lessons about reality.
I take it you disagree with me on the mirror issue and would assert that objective self-knowledge is indeed possible. Please share your wisdom, for I sorely doubt that this is the case and crave correction.
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHyou're missing the point: all perceptions, including those of self, are interpreted, and hence subjective. we can only hope for a degree of objectivity when the object of perception is in the public domian, so to speak, and even then it only goes so far. looking for "the truth" in any hopelessly subjective "mirror of the soul" is an exercise in pointlessness.
How can a blind man tell the sighted what something looks like? You're pretty close to the nadir of maturity and yet you deign yourself elevated to such a degree as to inform those who truly know 'what it's all about.'
Tell you what: when your inner life of thinking comes anywhere near the level achieved with your superficial life of useless knowledge, then--- and only then--- should you launch into any lessons about reality.
GB doesn't have much, if any, understanding of the philosophical issues at stake, but he likes to think he does, and he likes even more for others to think he does. unfortunately, he does manage to suck in a few generally well-meaning souls from time to time.
Originally posted by BlackampThe CCTV of the soul.
you're missing the point: all perceptions, including those of self, are interpreted, and hence subjective. we can only hope for a degree of objectivity when the object of perception is in the public domian. [...]
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