Takin a freakin break.....

I love RHP, and kudos to Chris and Russ for the best site in the world,
but I need a break. It's terribly addicting and the amount of games I
have is killing my play quality. I am leaving for awhile to study more
and build up my playing strength, so I can come back and crush some
skulls.......I will prolly come back under a new nick sometime after
Christmas. Maybe a month or two after.........I will definitely be back
though......Goodbye to all friends for now......Good luck in life and
chess games. 🙂

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Tony

Good luck with your studies. I would recommend that you try to
improve both your chess and your English. You sound like Thomas the
Tank engine on an "E" ......BTW how many nicks do you have at
present, besides the ones we know about?
Janey

And Janey you sound like someone who is looking for an argument
and who wants a fight. Why?

Mark, i love squirrels, you are my friend.
Janey
xx

And I'm glad that I can name you as one of my friends. But so is
Tony.

For someone who wrote the following...

Words CAN hurt

Posted by Miss Take [23 November 2002 15:40]

Now that the site is coming closer to being a real family let us all be
aware that unkind, untrue words do indeed hurt.
Remember Mrs. Doasyouwouldbedoneby?
Boomerangs come back!
lots of love
Janey
x

...I was surprised at you then criticising another user of the site for his
standard of English and chess (we're not all ranked in the 1700s) and
then telling him that he was behaving like Thomas the Tank Engine
on an E.

Words can hurt everyone, not just you or I.

Your friend,

Mark
The Squirrel Lover

well i am SORRY
But maybe just maybe i want someone to hurt me too!

Anyway i didn't criticize his chess at all just the childish noises he
makes when he speaks. I didn't know he was your friend i always
thought he was Dave under another nick, I put the weird vocabulary
down to too much alcohol.
Sincere apologies to ~Tony~
Janey

I rarely if ever post, but I must speak out right now. Miss Take, I
don't know you personally and we've never played a game of chess
together, but I take offense to your post. I am a dear friend of Dave
and I'm not going to idly sit by and allow him to be bashed
undeservingly on this forum or any other. You have no idea what he is
going through right now and you have no right to kick someone when
they are down. That is completely uncalled for and just mean spirited.
I know the two of you have had your differences in the past, but at the
same time, there's no need to wish ill will on anyone....friend or foe.
This isn't about a game of chess...it's about LIFE!

Dave posted a very personal and truthful message on here a couple
of days ago. He was being completely honest. He very well could have
just swept everything under the rug and moved on, but he addressed
a serious problem that he is battling and I commend him for that.
That had to be an extremely difficult thing for him to do. He swallowed
his pride and opened his personal life up to a bunch of strangers that
he considers his friends. I'm sure he realized he was subjecting
himself to embarrassment and ridicule, but he felt he had to right a
ship that had been steered off course. I don't think I could have
shared what he did if I were in his place. He's stronger than me in that
regard and I applaud him for it.

I don't know ~Tony~ either, but I know he and Dave aren't the same
person. And if you mistake our American version of the Queen
Mother's language (my sincerest apologies to all of my fellow RHP
English chess players, I have nothing but admiration and respect for
England. Just mad at the moment and disagree with Miss Take's post)
and childish "noises" for poor English then so be it, but you're being a
bit presumptuous about the enitre situation. Besides, isn't ~Tony~
quite young anyway, still considered a child by some? Sorry ~Tony~ ;-
) I agree that you owe an apology in regards to the false accusations
directed at ~Tony~, but I believe you also owe an apology to Dave for
slinging a tasteless and classless remark his way.

Until you can say that you've walked in somebody's shoes, you need
to take care of your own feet. I think you need to be a little more
understanding, respectful, and sympathetic towards something you
don't competely understand. I may get flamed for this post, but I
really don't care. Dave and his family are hurting right now and I
cannot and will not allow anybody to take cheap shots at them while
they sort out their lives.

Dave's friend,
Ashley

PS - Dave, I'm pulling for you man. I love you like a brother and you
can beat this thing. Send me a game over if you have resumed
playing and want to take some of your frustrations out on somebody.
Call me please!

Well said Ashley! Well said! :o) Dave doesn't deserve these attacks.
I too am his friend and proud of it. I'm also proud to be yours.

Doug

I didn't attack him, i congratulate him on coming clean and admitting
his guilt. Too many women are the victims of this sort of thing. I wish
Dave well and hope he is able to become a better person. I support
him in that
Janey

Janey,
Well said, I agree with you!


Harri / Luck

I didn't know that WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
was part of any language, not even American.

BTW I am not English
Janey

I never stated that WHOOOOOOOOOOO was part of any language. I
was classifying that as a childish noise you were referring to. I
apologize for mistaking your nationality. But if that's the best
response you have, you're missing the entire point of my arguement.

I was addressing the fact that you took a cheap shot at Dave with the
comment about too much alcohol. Alcoholism is a nasty disease that
takes control of a person's life and destroys everything around them.
I'm not going to argue about petty nuances or grammar in each
other's post. I'm here to protect my friend from criticism and those
ignorant to his situation.

Why not offer support and positive feelings for Dave during his hard
time? Negativity does nothing to help the situation. If you have
nothing nice to say, how about saying nothing at all.

Ashley

Thanks dude...your words and concern are exactly what I need right
now.

Talk with you soon.

Dave

I have to second this-- the remark about alcohol was just too far over
the border of tastefulness. Alcoholism is a potentially fatal illness, it
is NOT a character flaw. And the consumption of alcohol is condoned
and encouraged in all aspects of our culture, wise folks that we are...
Kicking people when they are down is an act of cowardice. I don't like
getting involved in the BS on the forums, which is why I haven't been
here for a while-- I come here, and this is what I see. Back to my
games, I guess.
Tim

Janey,

I hope you understand that this is not a personal attack against you. I
have to agree with Ashley here. I would defend you if I thought it was
the right thing to do, and I've done so before. What I would like to do
is help you to understand why what you've said might be so hurtful.

First of all, seriously, what authority can you claim that would let you
judge Tony's use of grammar or exlamations (like WHOOOO...)? You
may want to learn to capitalize your i's or use complete sentences with
proper punctuation before you start commenting on someone else's
use of the language. This isn't the real issue, though.

Second, and much, much more important: I'm personally hurt by your
rather flippant, perhaps even unintentional jab at Dave. Since I have,
in fact, defended you in the past, it makes my judgement in the
matter seem questionable when you do something so tactless and
tasteless. It makes me wonder why I did so in the first place. It
implies rather thoughtless, irresponsible, uncaring attitude, which is
perhaps even worse than actual vindictiveness.

I'm not sure if you've really considered the importance and
significance of Dave's confession, or if you understand how difficult
dealing with an addiction can be. This is *especially* true of alcohol,
for a number of reasons. Dave's post, admitting his problem, was a
very brave thing to do. Do you know why, Janey? He left himself
vulnerable to just the sort of thing you have done: a tasteless
personal attack.

Janey, you really don't know this man, his family, or the struggle he's
going through. Any reference to his alcohol problem, however indirect,
is such a hurtful thing right now, expecially since he had placed an
implied trust with us in telling us about his problem. He trusted us to
be supportive and understanding, and you have been the opposite.

Right now, Dave needs his real friends on this site to put aside any
petty differences and provide him with our support. Surely, you
understand that his problems are on a completely different level from
anything you and he have argued about before.

I hope you'll consider, in the future, that what you say can be hurtful
even if you don't intent to be. Petty insults and jabs like this are
inapropriate at any time, and *especially* right now. I expect better
things of someone in the top 20, Janey. I've always associated chessic
abilities with a mature mind, and this wasn't a very mature thing to
say.

Rein
Oh, by the way, what happened to the rematch you promised me?