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A friend has an old style TV set with a converter box that converts ATSC digital to NTSC analog, and a DVR disk player/recorder for recording TV shows and playing Netflix disks. In other words the TV is an old style, and has video-out for recording to the DVR, and video-in for watching things that are on disk. He has an antenna, no cable or satellite, and wants to keep it that way -- no monthly cable/satellite charges. But he wants to get an HDTV, maybe 37 or 40 inches. It seems that there is no way to record from an HDTV to a DVR. So what would you advise him to do, to be able to record TV shows for later viewing and be able to watch Netflix disks on an HDTV? Would a divo work, without a cable or satellite subscription?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by JS357
A friend has an old style TV set with a converter box that converts ATSC digital to NTSC analog, and a DVR disk player/recorder for recording TV shows and playing Netflix disks. In other words the TV is an old style, and has video-out for recording to the DVR, and video-in for watching things that are on disk. He has an antenna, no cable or satellite, and want ...[text shortened]... tflix disks on an HDTV? Would a divo work, without a cable or satellite subscription?

Thanks.
Are you any relation to SJnumbers?

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Originally posted by Starrman
Are you any relation to SJnumbers?
LOL, that's what I thought and didn't even bother to read the post. πŸ˜›

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Originally posted by Starrman
Are you any relation to SJnumbers?
Are they acquainted with GinoJ and JoniG?

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Thanks for the helpful reply.

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Originally posted by JS357
A friend has an old style TV set with a converter box that converts ATSC digital to NTSC analog, and a DVR disk player/recorder for recording TV shows and playing Netflix disks. In other words the TV is an old style, and has video-out for recording to the DVR, and video-in for watching things that are on disk. He has an antenna, no cable or satellite, and want ...[text shortened]... tflix disks on an HDTV? Would a divo work, without a cable or satellite subscription?

Thanks.
http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/f/dvdrecgfaq14.htm

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Originally posted by JS357
Thanks for the helpful reply.
Sorry.. you remind us of somebody else.

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Originally posted by JS357
A friend has an old style TV set with a converter box that converts ATSC digital to NTSC analog, and a DVR disk player/recorder for recording TV shows and playing Netflix disks. In other words the TV is an old style, and has video-out for recording to the DVR, and video-in for watching things that are on disk. He has an antenna, no cable or satellite, and want ...[text shortened]... tflix disks on an HDTV? Would a divo work, without a cable or satellite subscription?

Thanks.
"It seems that there is no way to record from an HDTV to a DVR."

?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdtv#Recording_and_compression

Recording and compression
Main article: High-definition pre-recorded media and compression

HDTV can be recorded to D-VHS (Digital-VHS or Data-VHS), W-VHS (analog only), to an HDTV-capable digital video recorder (for example DirecTV's high-definition Digital video recorder, Sky HD's set-top box, Dish Network's VIP 622 or VIP 722 high-definition Digital video recorder receivers, or TiVo's Series 3 or HD recorders), or an HDTV-ready HTPC. Some cable boxes are capable of receiving or recording two or more broadcasts at a time in HDTV format, and HDTV programming, some free, some for a fee, can be played back with the cable company's on-demand feature.

The massive amount of data storage required to archive uncompressed streams meant that inexpensive uncompressed storage options were not available in the consumer market until recently. In 2008 the Hauppauge 1212 Personal Video Recorder was introduced. This device accepts HD content through component video inputs and stores the content in an uncompressed MPEG transport stream (.ts) file or Blu-ray format .m2ts file on the hard drive or DVD burner of a computer connected to the PVR through a USB 2.0 interface.

Realtime MPEG-2 compression of an uncompressed digital HDTV signal is prohibitively expensive for the consumer market at this time, but should become inexpensive within several years (although this is more relevant for consumer HD camcorders than recording HDTV). Analog tape recorders with bandwidth capable of recording analog HD signals such as W-VHS recorders are no longer produced for the consumer market and are both expensive and scarce in the secondary market.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
"It seems that there is no way to record from an HDTV to a DVR."

?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdtv#Recording_and_compression

Recording and compression
Main article: High-definition pre-recorded media and compression

HDTV can be recorded to D-VHS (Digital-VHS or Data-VHS), W-VHS (analog only), to an HDTV-capable digital video recorder (for ex ...[text shortened]... oduced for the consumer market and are both expensive and scarce in the secondary market.
Thanks...

"This device accepts HD content through component video inputs"
?

My concern is where the outputs are, that mate to the recording device's component video inputs inputs. The HDTVs I have looked at and have asked one guru about do not have outputs to a recording device. It seems that these devices receive their inputs directly from a cable or satellite system and have a tuner or even multiple tuning capability, and sit in between the signal source and the TV. I want to know if there is a way I can avoid buying another box. It seems there isn't.

Thanks.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Are you any relation to SJnumbers?
Ha! That's what I was thinking too.

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Originally posted by JS357
Thanks...

"This device accepts HD content through component video inputs"
?

My concern is where the outputs are, that mate to the recording device's component video inputs inputs. The HDTVs I have looked at and have asked one guru about do not have outputs to a recording device. It seems that these devices receive their inputs directly from a cable or s ...[text shortened]... t to know if there is a way I can avoid buying another box. It seems there isn't.

Thanks.
usually people have an A/V amp. everything goes into the amp first, then from there the video goes to telly, and audio to your speakers.

traditionally TVs didn't really ever have anything to output, it's not an input device. recently it has changed a bit as you have usb ports in TV etc, and the new digital HDMI connections mirror that change. but not the old anologue connections.

I wouldn't bother with analogue if it wasn't forced, the picture quality is so much worse. but then again, analogue broadcasts stopped here in 2007, so it's not like I even have a choice.



(I didn't even realize you weren't SJ247, before now)

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Originally posted by wormwood
(I didn't even realize you weren't SJ247, before now)
This is awesome!

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Yeah, the other day, while I was in my lab about to discover the cure
for Bad Aids, I interrupted the research all of a sudden and realized
that I had a television question as well.

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