Originally posted by DrKFKant is one of my favourites, but including it ruined the theme. 🙂
We had to get round to Leibniz, but he's one of the Enlightenment curveballs, to my mind - particularly when you stray away from his contribution to mathematics and in to metaphysics.
Playnka, I don't know - other than the maths bias - how you can exclude Kant from your list! Everyone and his goat was in awe of his accomplishments... But it's good to have a ...[text shortened]... e to be a double album, at least. But at least we get a gatefold sleeve with it...
Originally posted by Bosse de NageHaydn never really broke away from the strict norms of baroque/classical although his late oaratorios the Creation and the Seasons are quite surprising for a somewhat stiff dude. Beethoven belived in Napoleon as the "enlghtened" leader who would bring the revolutionary philosophy to fruition and dedicated his Eroica to him. When Napoloen crowned himself emperor Beethoven erased the dedication in the autograph score. Years later when advised Napoleon had died, Beethoven said: "Bah! Lord knows I've already written the music to that tragedy!" The second movement of the Eroica being a funeral march!
From the era.
Beethoven was the first that came to mind; couldn't think of any others. Haydn? Somehow ...
Originally posted by DrKFSorted:
We had to get round to Leibniz, but he's one of the Enlightenment curveballs, to my mind - particularly when you stray away from his contribution to mathematics and in to metaphysics.
Playnka, I don't know - other than the maths bias - how you can exclude Kant from your list! Everyone and his goat was in awe of his accomplishments... But it's good to have a ...[text shortened]... e to be a double album, at least. But at least we get a gatefold sleeve with it...
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Leibniz has to be included if only as a football to Voltaire. So I guess Voltaire has to be in as well -- in the liner notes, perhaps. I mean, look at this picture:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Voltaire_and_Diderot_at_the_Caf%C3%A9_Procope.jpeg
Who's being a dick to the waiter? Voltaire.
I like the idea of Philosopher Top Trumps. It would be fun to devise a rating system. Got any ideas?
Yes, it was a deliberate strategy -- Kant was a monster!!! From Kant to Azathoth in three easy steps.
I tend to agree with you idealistically speaking, but Russell's way of saving universals via relations is quite brilliant. A bit odd that he should have got a Nobel for Literature, though. Why isn't there a Nobel for Philosophy?
And what about Spinoza as the man who got the enlightenment going by rejecting the authority of revealed religion? If there is a question: "What is enlightenment?" then it has at least a negative answer along the lines of not letting religious orthodoxies dictate your thinking for you. As to the positive answer, (ie. - what to believe instead) the jury is still out I suppose. Liberty, equality and fraternity will do for me though.
Originally posted by dikankanI love Spinoza, but is he good for anything today?
And what about Spinoza as the man who got the enlightenment going by rejecting the authority of revealed religion? If there is a question: "What is enlightenment?" then it has at least a negative answer along the lines of not letting religious orthodoxies dictate your thinking for you. As to the positive answer, (ie. - what to believe instead) the jury is still out I suppose. Liberty, equality and fraternity will do for me though.