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  1. Standard memberSeitse
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    22 Sep '16 08:10
    Voilá

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/the-free-time-paradox-in-america/499826/
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    22 Sep '16 10:59
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Voilá

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/the-free-time-paradox-in-america/499826/
    " Rich, ambitious Americans are already spending more time on what makes them fulfilled, but that thing turned out to be work."

    Work is the essence of productivity. Working buys time for leisure.
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    22 Sep '16 15:21
    Originally posted by josephw
    Working buys time for leisure.
    Sure, but the article says they're simply not taking any.
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    22 Sep '16 21:061 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Sure, but the article says they're simply not taking any.
    You just have to remember that a significant portion of Americans are going to vote for Donald Trump.

    Obviously, intelligence isn't considered a prized commodity by any of them.

    It used to be "Working for the weekend", but now they go ahead and work the weekend too. Maybe if they stopped praying to their corporate Republican gods (i.e. voting for them), they'd eventually be able to afford more time off and could use the free time to educate themselves.
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    22 Sep '16 21:14
    Originally posted by josephw
    [b]" Rich, ambitious Americans are already spending more time on what makes them fulfilled, but that thing turned out to be work."

    Work is the essence of productivity. Working buys time for leisure.[/b]
    They're also part of a larger societal dynamic that says fulfillment comes from having money.

    Who pushes this societal dynamic? Their corporate overlords, through advertising.
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    22 Sep '16 21:42
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Obviously, intelligence isn't considered a prized commodity by any of them.
    Intelligence is too much to ask from human beings sometimes. A bit of common
    sense would go a long way.
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    23 Sep '16 06:46
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Sure, but the article says they're simply not taking any.
    Leisure is over rated. One can only tolerate idleness for so long, unless, as the article suggests, one is between 21 and 30, living with mommy and daddy, unemployed, addicted to video games and generally lazy.

    Gets more complicated. Consider how much the world has changed since WW2. Six or seven decades ago, two generations, leisure was a pastime for the affluent when the world moved at a much slower pace. Today one can experience leisure time much more quickly, and then it's time to get back to work.

    Also, I think, working is a more rewarding endeavor than in the past because of technology and more creative ways to do work.

    The benefits of relaxation and leisure are now found in productivity. That is for those with the energy and ambition, as compared to the rising number of youth that haven't found their purpose in life yet.

    Just my guess.
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    23 Sep '16 07:36
    Originally posted by josephw
    Leisure is over rated. One can only tolerate idleness for so long....
    Trust an American to conflate "leisure" with "idleness". 😛
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    23 Sep '16 09:47
    Originally posted by josephw
    Today one can experience leisure time much more quickly
    Yup, that's one of the theories mentioned in the article.
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    23 Sep '16 10:13
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Trust an American to conflate "leisure" with "idleness". 😛
    You're just full of prejudices aren't you?

    Is that your problem that as soon as you see the word idle you think of lazy?
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    23 Sep '16 10:29
    Originally posted by josephw
    You're just full of prejudices aren't you?

    Is that your problem that as soon as you see the word idle you think of lazy?
    He's... bitter, for a lack of a better word.

    FMF cheated on him, who knows? Take it easy on the poor sob.
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    23 Sep '16 10:40
    Originally posted by Seitse
    He's... bitter, for a lack of a better word.

    FMF cheated on him, who knows? Take it easy on the poor sob.
    Well, maybe he should find some leisure time to just idle around for a while instead of nitpicking at me all over this forum. 😉
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    23 Sep '16 10:411 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    Well, maybe he should find some leisure time to just idle around for a while instead of nitpicking at me all over this forum. 😉
    Ha! 😀

    Remember, his master owns this forum, he's just policing it for him.
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    23 Sep '16 10:57
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Ha! 😀

    Remember, his master owns this forum, he's just policing it for him.
    Is that why we haven't heard much from FMF? Is he too busy administrating and counting the moola?

    Is it true FMF owns this site? Seems weird to me.
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    23 Sep '16 11:08
    Originally posted by josephw
    You're just full of prejudices aren't you?

    Is that your problem that as soon as you see the word idle you think of lazy?
    So leisure isn't necessarily idleness then?
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