Originally posted by BridgePlayerYou don't know what you're talking about, fool. eBay charges a fee which is a percentage of the final closing value of the item sold. For the examples I used, the fee would be 5.25%. For item 'A' ($1 price with $10 shipping) the fee would be 5.25¢. For item 'B' ($10 price with $1 shipping) the fee would be 52.5¢. The dealer saves 47.25¢ by choosing option 'A'.
that is incorrect, the price of the item would have to be more than that for it to make a difference. It is true if you did say $1 for the item and $500 for shipping as opposed to $500 for the item and $1 for the shipping.
Originally posted by BridgePlayerThe money they end up having to return to people in cases of fraud is nothing...period.
The money they end up having to return to people in cases of fraud is nothing compared to what they make.
They don't, or never have with any of the many people I know about who have been diddled.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundIt's also very important to check out the sellers Feedback Score. If he has hundreds of positive feedbacks from previous customers with no negative feedback, then you can pretty much rest assured that you're dealing with a reputable seller. If he has very little feedback, or several negative ones, then it's you're taking your chances. Caveat emptor.
So i Logs on to Ebay looking for X item (not a lot of X's in this part of the world). I see the fellow for me, the bidding has less than a day to go, and the item is only €0.88 . . .yes !!
So i check the page, the item is cool, the seller is in a far away country, so i expect P&P, and i check other things from the same guy. I spy a chess Board. . . ...[text shortened]... m and politely told him to Stick his items up. . .on Ebay again.
Does this happen often ?
I, for example, have a Feedback Score of 133, with 100% positive feedback. If you went to my eBay store, you could be reasonably confident that the transaction would turn out to your satisfaction.
The more reputable dealers clearly list their shipping prices and tend to not overcharge for shipping.
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveThey do return money. I have had money returned to me and know others that have as well. As long as you follow their guidelines you can file a complaint and get your money back. The problem is that many people pay in ways that eBay warns not to pay. You need to pay in a manner that can be tracked. Paypal is of course the best and quickest way to pay with the reassurance that should you not get your item and the seller cant prove that they sent it with a tracking number or proof that they refunded your money, paypal will automatically give you back your money.
The money they end up having to return to people in cases of fraud is nothing...period.
They don't, or never have with any of the [b]many people I know about who have been diddled.[/b]
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Originally posted by BridgePlayerPaypal/ebay will only try to get some of your money back FROM the sellers paypal account - if they were stupid enough not to have emptied it - I know this for a fact, I went through it with a couple of people. If the seller has collected his money and then started a new ebay account you're out of luck. And the police can't/won't help unless it's a huge value item.
Paypal is of course the best and quickest way to pay with the reassurance that should you not get your item and the seller cant prove that they sent it with a tracking number or proof that they refunded your money, paypal will automatically give you back your money.
Even the feedback points were being sold on there at one time - until ebay were forced to stop it.
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Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveWhats to stop a bunch of guys giving positive feedback on imaginary items until they want to start the rip off ?
Paypal/ebay will only try to get some of your money back FROM the sellers paypal account - if they were stupid enough not to have emptied it - I know this for a fact, I went through it with a couple of people. If the seller has collected his money and then started a new ebay account you're out of luck. And the police can't/won't help unless it he feedback points were being sold on there at one time - until ebay were forced to stop it.
My lesson is learned. The sad part is that i can t get anyone with the item i want closer to home, the Chess set i can buy in the UK (its really hard to find one over here), but the other item . . . i'll just have to wait i guess.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundExactly what is done.
Whats to stop a bunch of guys giving positive feedback on imaginary items until they want to start the rip off ?
Previously it was openly sold for 10 pence or something stupid.
There are loads of good honest sellers on ebay but you have to be sensible who you deal with. And careful. I always get their address on the pretext of collecting it. Then get them to send it - they know you have their address so technically you should be safer. No good if it's in another country though.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundDidn't you check the listing (If the answer is negative you can safely describe yourself as being a total tool).
So i Logs on to Ebay looking for X item (not a lot of X's in this part of the world). I see the fellow for me, the bidding has less than a day to go, and the item is only €0.88 . . .yes !!
So i check the page, the item is cool, the seller is in a far away country, so i expect P&P, and i check other things from the same guy. I spy a chess Board. . . ...[text shortened]... m and politely told him to Stick his items up. . .on Ebay again.
Does this happen often ?
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Originally posted by The Slow PawnListing?
Didn't you check the listing (If the answer is negative you can safely describe yourself as being a total tool).
No, i'm a noob in ebay. . . You do know what a noob is ?
If you answer in the afirmative, negative, or any way that has words of more than one sylable. . . Bite me.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundListing is the offer (what you see before you bid) ... There are various reason for such a high p&p (ranging from the seller not wanting to make eBay even richer to being one of them who just enjoys ripping of people like you) ...
Listing?
No, i'm a noob in ebay. . . You do know what a noob is ?
If you answer in the afirmative, negative, or any way that has words of more than one sylable. . . Bite me.
So, did you read it (in which case you're def. a tool having bid on the item)
Did you not read it (in which case you're def. a tool having bid on the item without reading it)
So?????
Originally posted by The Slow Pawni redirect you to the answer i gave moments ago
Listing is the offer (what you see before you bid) ... There are various reason for such a high p&p (ranging from the seller not wanting to make eBay even richer to being one of them who just enjoys ripping of people like you) ...
So, did you read it (in which case you're def. a tool having bid on the item)
Did you not read it (in which case you're def. a tool having bid on the item without reading it)
So?????
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Originally posted by The Slow PawnIt was a chinese Tea set, actually. The specs said check with seller for postage, but i know how much it costs to post things from china, so i was expecting a different amount.
lol ...
Fair enough, next time make sure you read on what you are bidding before bidding money on your desired XXX gadget (or was it X gadget ??)
The funny thing was, the Tea set had €44 euro postage, and the chess set had €102. Total rip.
I never got caught out as such, because the cheatin Bar steward can sing for his money, he aint gettinn a cent off me 😛