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Originally posted by SquelchbelchThere are several flaws in your proof. Firstly, you got the pin wrong. Secondly, £+++ is not a valid cohomology class. My current approach is to try to find a semi-demi-simple abelian category for which P = 2.07 r^Z (µ - X² ), using a Lefschetz pencil of hyperplane sections of X. * This should enable me to find the homomorphic metapawn Grothendieck was missing.
I already found the proof/solution
* More on semi-demi-simple abelian categories can be found here: P. Deligne, (rédigé par J. L. Brylinski). Cycles de Hodge absolus et périodes des integrales des
variétés abeliennes. Memoires SMF 2 (1980) pp. 23-33.
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Originally posted by demonseedFrom Wikipedia: "As the word [grammar] is understood by most modern linguists, the subfields of grammar are phonetics, phonology, morphology, syntax, semantics, and pragmatics." So, which of those categories would punctuation fall into?
No, no, no, no, no. It's not orthography, incorrect use of the apostrophe is a punctuation error that falls under the general auspices of grammar.
Also from Wikipedia: "Orthography defines the set of symbols (glyphs and diacritics) used to write a language, as well as the set of rules describing how to write these symbols, including spelling, punctuation, and capitalization."
Originally posted by NordlysJust shows how unreliable the internet is as an education resource. Grammar is the system of rules by which we can generate correct sentences; orthography refers to the consistent representation of sounds via printed letters/symbols.
From Wikipedia: "As the word [grammar] is understood by most modern linguists, the subfields of grammar are phonetics, phonology, morphology, syntax, semantics, and pragmatics." So, which of those categories would punctuation fall into?
Also from Wikipedia: "Orthography defines the set of symbols (glyphs and diacritics) used to write a language, as well a ...[text shortened]... describing how to write these symbols, including spelling, punctuation, and capitalization."
A mistake in the use of an apostrophe renders a sentence not inaccurate but invalid and hence is a grammatical error.
Will you e-mail wikipedia or shall I?
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Originally posted by demonseedYou don't e-mail Wikipedia, you edit the article. But please don't, because you are still wrong. Can you give me any source saying that punctuation is part of grammar?
Just shows how unreliable the internet is as an education resource. Grammar is the system of rules by which we can generate correct sentences; orthography refers to the consistent representation of sounds via printed letters/symbols.
A mistake in the use of an apostrophe renders a sentence not inaccurate but invalid and hence is a grammatical error.
Will you e-mail wikipedia or shall I?
Out of curiosity, would you also consider it a grammatical error if someone writes "rite" instead of "right", or if someone omits the full stop at the end of a sentence?
Edit: While punctuation and spelling are not grammar, some understanding of grammar is necessary to get the spelling and punctuation write.
Originally posted by NordlysI didn't read the wikipedia article I just recounted my understanding of grammar and orthography.
You don't e-mail Wikipedia, you edit the article. But please don't, because you are still wrong. Can you give me any source saying that punctuation is part of grammar?
Out of curiosity, would you also consider it a grammatical error if someone writes "rite" instead of "right", or if someone omits the full stop at the end of a sentence?
Edit: Whi ...[text shortened]... mar, some understanding of grammar is necessary to get the spelling and punctuation write.
Orthography pertains to the symbolic representation of sounds, I think. Therefore punctuation is relevant in that it indicates pauses between these sounds but punctuation is certainly relevant to grammar in that it makes valid sentences.
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Originally posted by demonseedSo any spelling which is a valid representation of the sounds it is meant to stand for would be correct orthography (although it might be grammatically incorrect)? oar inn other wurds, this sentens is spellt korrectly?
I didn't read the wikipedia article I just recounted my understanding of grammar and orthography.
Orthography pertains to the symbolic representation of sounds, I think. Therefore punctuation is relevant in that it indicates pauses between these sounds but punctuation is certainly relevant to grammar in that it makes valid sentences.
Originally posted by NordlysNow you are simply being facetious, most unbecoming.
So any spelling which is a valid representation of the sounds it is meant to stand for would be correct orthography (although it might be grammatically incorrect)? oar inn other wurds, this sentens is spellt korrectly?
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Originally posted by NordlysYes but a mistake in the use of an apostrophe is not merely an aesthetic error, it invalidates the meaning.
Just pointing out the flaw in your thinking. Orthography deals with how language is represented in writing. Grammar deals with the language itself, not its visual representation.
Edit: I spelt apostrophe wrong, damn it to hell!
Originally posted by demonseedSo does riting "write" instead of "right". That's why we have orthography in the first place, rather than using a purely phonetic system.
Yes but a mistake in the use of an apostrophe is not merely an aesthetic error, it invalidates the meaning.
Edit: I spelt apostrophe wrong, damn it to hell!
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Originally posted by NordlysInvalid to me implies breaking a rule whereas what you are referring to is simply an error.
So does riting "write" instead of "right". That's why we have orthography in the first place, rather than using a purely phonetic system.
For example writing: "It's worth can be shown etc" is not merely inaccurate but invalid. The rules of the English language have been broken and to me that seems to come under the category of grammar.