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Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- again, to a degree--- does just that.

Obstacle: I freaking (no pun intended) HATE zoos. Animals are depressed while eternally curious regarding their boundaries. Not saying they have an agenda, but if I were an animal, breaking out and eating people would be the human equivalent of scoring a record-setting lottery: not likely to happen, but we plan every step in stop-motion clarity... just in case.

Do I play the prick and disallow it, make her feel like a JW kid on their birthday, or do I give in to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?

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Check the probabilities of polar-bear assassins breaking down the fences (I'd guess it's below 1😵 against the 99% probability that your daughter will be seriously disappointed.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- a ...[text shortened]... to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?
Can you get the day off and be one of the parent chaperones? Then you can protect her from rampaging wildlife, should the need occur...by tossing someone else's kid to the rampaging animal.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- a ...[text shortened]... to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?
Your child's chances of encountering any real danger at a zoo is quite minimal. Your chances of getting into a vehicular accident on the way there or back is exponentially greater, yet you're probably not giving that a second thought.

Your misgivings about the state and nature of zoos is a separate issue and needs to be determined separately.

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Taking any kid to an animal prison is just sick.

The cage maker has a lot to answer for.

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Originally posted by Woodgie
Taking any kid to an animal prison is just sick.

The cage maker has a lot to answer for.
Zoos are slowly getting away from the Victorian notion of having an animal collection. Now, many zoos are displaying indigenous animals or helping to breed endangered species.

I'm not really a zoo advocate, most do not impress me; however, I'll play devil's advocate here. To me there's little difference between keeping an animal in a confined space and developing away the animal's natural habitat to the extent that it has none. It's the same difference to me.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Zoos are slowly getting away from the Victorian notion of having an animal collection. Now, many zoos are displaying indigenous animals or helping to breed endangered species.

I'm not really a zoo advocate, most do not impress me; however, I'll play devil's advocate here. To me there's little difference between keeping an animal in a confined space and d ...[text shortened]... e animal's natural habitat to the extent that it has none. It's the same difference to me.
Zoo's are for the ggay.

Stay in school, get a good job then go on holiday and see them for real.
As for endangered species, who endangered them in the first place?

I know I wouldn't want to live my life in a cage, it is not all it is cracked up to be.

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- a ...[text shortened]... to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?
Take her out to the track and have her practice 200 meter sprints.

That way if a bear breaks loose, she will be safely in the front of the pack and bear will surely take a break after it catches the slowest child. No worries.

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Damn smileys - I always forget I can't do a percentage as the last thing inside a pair of brackets!

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Originally posted by Woodgie
Taking any kid to an animal prison is just sick.

The cage maker has a lot to answer for.
Yeah, those Siberian Tigers really have it great in the wild 😞

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Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- a ...[text shortened]... to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?
Eight year old child, girl or boy, I would be part of the scene for her/his protection as well

as for my own benefit in absorbing the observations and discoveries of those bright eyes.


Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Okay, respond if you can offer something helpful. Otherwise, just read and weep.

Second oldest girl, eight years old, needs my permission to go to the Cleveland Metro Park Zoo. I try to give my kids everything they want, whenever possible. I like them happy and having a sense that the world revolves around them--- to a degree--- because my world--- a ...[text shortened]... to peer pressure and hope no polar bear crashes the gate and turns her into his human Popsicle?
It's just a trip to the zoo.

Let her be a kid. Sheesh.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Your child's chances of encountering any real danger at a zoo is quite minimal. Your chances of getting into a vehicular accident on the way there or back is exponentially greater, yet you're probably not giving that a second thought.

Your misgivings about the state and nature of zoos is a separate issue and needs to be determined separately.
not to mention the chances of a crazed mass killer wandering onto the school grounds.

on the other side, we've got one teen-taunts-tiger-and-tiger-climbs-fence.

maybe it's time to consider home schooling.

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Originally posted by Suzianne
It's just a trip to the zoo.

Let her be a kid. Sheesh.
exactly.

let the kid develop her own views about zoos as she gets older...