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    20 Jan '17 18:26
    Whatever you may think of the man who just assumed office, the most moving scene of the inauguration, for me, was seeing the former president leaving. Voluntarily. Peacefully. Alive. That is no mean feat; I can think of no other empire which organized regular, frequent, and peaceful transitions of power for anything like 200 years running. Just compare with what is going on in Gambia right now for a reality check on how politics runs in many other countries most of the time.
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    20 Jan '17 18:42
    Originally posted by moonbus
    Whatever you may think of the man who just assumed office, the most moving scene of the inauguration, for me, was seeing the former president leaving. Voluntarily. Peacefully. Alive. That is no mean feat; I can think of no other empire which organized regular, frequent, and peaceful transitions of power for anything like 200 years running. Just compare with ...[text shortened]... bia right now for a reality check on how politics runs in many other countries most of the time.
    Well said
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    20 Jan '17 19:50
    It's just a shame that the USA does everything in its power to stop a genuine democratic process happening anywhere else in the world!
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    20 Jan '17 20:12
    Originally posted by moonbus
    I can think of no other empire which organized regular, frequent, and peaceful transitions of power for anything like 200 years running.
    The British Empire
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    20 Jan '17 20:59
    Fools. Do you think the change of puppet in chief is a transition of power?

    How naive. The power remains in the same place, no matter who sleeps at the
    White House.
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    20 Jan '17 21:17
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    The British Empire
    You cannot be serious! The transfer of power in Britain was never regular and seldom peaceful, until power was effectively removed from the monarchy.

    http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/KingsQueensofBritain/
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    20 Jan '17 21:32
    Originally posted by moonbus
    You cannot be serious! The transfer of power in Britain was never regular and seldom peaceful, until power was effectively removed from the monarchy.

    http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/KingsQueensofBritain/
    What has that link got to do with anything?
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    20 Jan '17 22:58
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    What has that link got to do with anything?
    What does your question have to do with that link?
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    Originally posted by Seitse
    Fools. Do you think the change of puppet in chief is a transition of power?

    How naive. The power remains in the same place, no matter who sleeps at the
    White House.
    Lies.

    I alone hold the power.
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    21 Jan '17 01:34
    Originally posted by beardmusic
    It's just a shame that the USA does everything in its power to stop a genuine democratic process happening anywhere else in the world!
    Of course it doesn't. I wonder what you see that makes you think such.

    'genuine'? Mob rule?
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    21 Jan '17 08:18
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    What has that link got to do with anything?
    It recounts about 1200 years of English monarchs who died in battle or were killed by their relatives / rivals. A counter-example to the claim that the British Empire organised regular and peaceful transfers of power.
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    21 Jan '17 08:52
    I noted that there were 4 former presidents on the grandstand behind Trump (Carter, Bush Jr., Clinton, and Obama). That says a lot. It's easy to get people into power; every nation manages that, one way or another. It's getting people out of power, on schedule and with dignity, that really matters in the long run. It may be America's great gift to posterity. I doubt Russia, for example, will make the same claim when Putin finally goes.
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    http://img.wennermedia.com/480-width/george-w-bush-2-9c613eed-9edf-4ae9-8c7f-0191309734a7.jpg
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    21 Jan '17 14:114 edits
    Originally posted by moonbus
    Whatever you may think of the man who just assumed office, the most moving scene of the inauguration, for me, was seeing the former president leaving. Voluntarily. Peacefully. Alive. That is no mean feat; I can think of no other empire which organized regular, frequent, and peaceful transitions of power for anything like 200 years running. Just compare with ...[text shortened]... bia right now for a reality check on how politics runs in many other countries most of the time.
    moonbus,

    It wasn't exactly a peaceful transition. The protesters burned at least one vehicle that I saw on the news. The riot squad had to use rubber bullets and pepper spray to drive them back. They did manage to keep them away from the route Trump was taking, by around 6 blocks I think was mentioned.

    At least two Policemen were injured and taken to hospital, that the media told us about. Many were arrested! I don't know what the last count was on arrests and people pepper sprayed.

    Trump's security will have a big job on their hands protecting him. That was the biggest security detail I've seen in some time. I counted at least 20 secret service on each side of the car he was driving in.

    One of the Videos on nbcnews:
    https://www.google.ca/#q=Trump+inauguration+rioting

    -VR
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    21 Jan '17 16:29
    Originally posted by moonbus
    It recounts about 1200 years of English monarchs who died in battle or were killed by their relatives / rivals. A counter-example to the claim that the British Empire organised regular and peaceful transfers of power.
    The British Empire does not date back 1200 years does it?

    My claim was refuting your statement that " ... no other empire which organized regular, frequent, and peaceful transitions of power for anything like 200 years running."

    So can you tell me about 1750 - 1950 ?
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