03 Aug 12
I recently trekked out to Kinder Scout for a shortish hike. When I thought i was near the top I asked a passerby if there were any trig points about as I thought it was a shame to come all this way and not get to the top. He got his map out and couldn't really tell me where any were but confidently informed me that, they are slowly getting rid of trig points as everyone has GPS now.
For real?>
What about us that don't? WOuld be nice to ahve a nice pile or some sort of indication, just to let us know we are at the top.
Up yours GPS, Satnav and other things that don't agree with my luddite sensibilities!
03 Aug 12
Originally posted by Sicilian SausageTrekkie
I recently trekked out to Kinder Scout for a shortish hike. When I thought i was near the top I asked a passerby if there were any trig points about as I thought it was a shame to come all this way and not get to the top. He got his map out and couldn't really tell me where any were but confidently informed me that, they are slowly getting rid of tr ...[text shortened]... op.
Up yours GPS, Satnav and other things that don't agree with my luddite sensibilities!
04 Aug 12
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Originally posted by Sicilian SausageI have to agree, though I do own a GPS 😉
I recently trekked out to Kinder Scout for a shortish hike. When I thought i was near the top I asked a passerby if there were any trig points about as I thought it was a shame to come all this way and not get to the top. He got his map out and couldn't really tell me where any were but confidently informed me that, they are slowly getting rid of tr op.
Up yours GPS, Satnav and other things that don't agree with my luddite sensibilities!
For the enlightenment of the unaware. Trig is short for triangulation point or trigonometrical point. They have been used for surveying. If you are interested in the history of surveying I suggest the book by Daniel Kehlmann (die Vermessung der Welt, english translation: Measuring the World.).
04 Aug 12
Originally posted by Sicilian SausageA little tip for you:
I recently trekked out to Kinder Scout for a shortish hike. When I thought i was near the top I asked a passerby if there were any trig points about as I thought it was a shame to come all this way and not get to the top. He got his map out and couldn't really tell me where any were but confidently informed me that, they are slowly getting rid of tr ...[text shortened]... op.
Up yours GPS, Satnav and other things that don't agree with my luddite sensibilities!
If you look up and see stuff, you are not at the top.
If you look around you and the only stuff is down, then it is safe to say you are the top.
If you look up and around and see nothing, open your eyes or stop trotting around in the dark with no torch.
05 Aug 12
Originally posted by WoodgieIt appears that everyone is an authority on climbing big hills. A bit like politcs, music and football.
A little tip for you:
If you look up and see stuff, you are not at the top.
If you look around you and the only stuff is down, then it is safe to say you are the top.
If you look up and around and see nothing, open your eyes or stop trotting around in the dark with no torch.
Your theory works fine woth big pointy hills like Snowdon, Everest and the such like but falls down flat with plateau like hill things, like Kinder Scout.
Thanks for taking the time to read my opinion on big hills. 🙂
05 Aug 12
Originally posted by PonderableThis is interesting. I went to the Wikipedia page (triangulation station) and read up on this. I see in most locations in the world these markers can be seen for some distance, being on some kind of pillar or marker. In the US, these are usually small round metal markers set in the rock and flush with the ground (when possible), like this pic:
I have to agree, though I do own a GPS 😉
For the enlightenment of the unaware. Trig is short for triangulation point or trigonometrical point. They have been used for surveying. If you are interested in the history of surveying I suggest the book by Daniel Kehlmann (die Vermessung der Welt, english translation: Measuring the World.).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Coast_%26_Geodetic_Survey_Triangulation_Station.jpg
The ones I've run into in my area (usually hiking on higher elevation points, I do live in a large city), usually look exactly like the pic and cannot be seen for any distance at all, you usually have to be standing over one to see it.
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06 Aug 12
Originally posted by Sicilian SausageI quite agree with your luddite sentiments (although I'd call them EMP-proof), but what I really want to know is...
I recently trekked out to Kinder Scout for a shortish hike.
He got his map out and couldn't really tell me where any were but confidently informed me that, they are slowly getting rid of trig points as everyone has GPS now.
Up yours GPS, Satnav and other things that don't agree with my luddite sensibilities!
...did the mountain top have a little plastic toy inside?
Richard