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    28 Nov '16 23:031 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    In terms that you will understand? Yes, Hillary lost the election because she was an elitist and was perceived to be serving the interests of the elite. Trump also an elitist tapped into this resentment and won.

    I am not bitter about anything other than having to battle against your ignorance.
    You keep calling me ignorant; perhaps it's in the vain hope that eventually, like a spell, it will come true. And yet I'm not the one prohibited from exercising my vote by my religious cult 🙄
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    28 Nov '16 23:06
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You keep calling me ignorant; perhaps it's in the vain hope that eventually, like a spell, it will come true. And yet I'm not the one prohibited from excercisin my vote by my religious cult 🙄
    Thanks but I've seen enough religious bigotry to last a life time.
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    28 Nov '16 23:11
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Thanks but I've seen enough religious bigotry to last a life time.
    Ignorant and now bigoted; I see. Was I lying about you not being permitted to vote?

    And you still maintain that there would be no difference between a Trump administration and a Clinton administration?
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    28 Nov '16 23:191 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Ignorant and now bigoted; I see. Was I lying about you not being permitted to vote?

    And you still maintain that there would be no difference between a Trump administration and a Clinton administration?
    After having read pages of your recent public forums posts I have not learned a single thing, you seem to talk a lot and not say anything. Whether this is deliberate or you actually don't know anything I cannot say, but in all my time here I don't think I have learned a single thing from you. I think you are ignorant, feel free to provide any evidence to the contrary.

    I am free to vote but chose not to. Infact I have never voted even before I was a Jehovahs Witness. If you wish to insinuate, fabricate values or do anything else with that fact then be my guest.

    I do not think there will be any discernible difference to the American people in terms of quality of life under a Trump administration as opposed to a Clinton one. Both as I have stated belong to a plutocracy. If you have anything which refutes this claim then be my guest.

    Now unless you can provide anything I would be pleased if you refrained from asking any more tedious question because you really are a rather tiresome fellow.
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    28 Nov '16 23:29
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    because you really are a rather tiresome fellow.
    This should go on FMF's pet's public profile. Succinct, elegant, spot on.
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    29 Nov '16 00:462 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I do not think there will be any discernible difference to the American people in terms of quality of life under a Trump administration as opposed to a Clinton one.
    What about things like relations with Iran and Cuba, the Paris Agreement, protection of the environment in the U.S., free market & free trade, health coverage, and maybe civil rights and other stuff? You said "it made no difference whether Trump won or some other elitist". Are you now saying that this is true only in so far as anything and everything that makes your assertion seem untrue and ignorant is excluded from what you claim to have meant?
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    29 Nov '16 01:593 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    do not think there will be any discernible difference to the American people in terms of quality of life under a Trump administration as opposed to a Clinton one. Both as I have stated belong to a plutocracy.

    If you have anything which refutes this claim then be my guest.
    Yes I do have something to add which refutes your claim and it's this: you are talking out of your ass... as usual.

    Trump and Clintons polices, styles, priorities and methodologies are blatantly different and all this bollox about plutocracies and quotes from the 18th century is hogwash. All your insults to me and blather about you being free to vote is simply a smoke-screen to cover your aliiegence to your dictatorial and anti-democracy religious cult.
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    29 Nov '16 02:01
    My analysis: Most people wanted to overturn the past administration's health policy, seen as the greater affront to personal liberty and the issue people are most invested in. Men and conservatives are not usually as outspoken yet are loyal to the voting process and prefer less intrusion of government. If anything to brag about he is not a careerist!
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    29 Nov '16 07:17
    Originally posted by whodey
    I would say that there is massive voter fraud in both camps.

    In the end though, the best hacker wins.
    Voter fraud is a Republican fantasy.

    It's the only way people will tolerate their voter suppression.
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    29 Nov '16 07:18
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Its a plutocracy, it made no difference whether Trump won or some other elitist.
    This is a completely stupid statement that I am glad others here have taken you to task for, so that I don't have to.
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    29 Nov '16 07:251 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    In terms that you will understand? Yes, Hillary lost the election because she was an elitist and part of a political dynasty was perceived to be serving the interests of the elite. Trump also an elitist tapped into this resentment and won.

    I am not bitter about anything other than having to battle against your ignorance.
    Well, see, here is where ignorance really shows its ugly head.

    Hillary was perceived as "serving the interests of the elite", while Trump actually does "serve the interests of the elite".

    The Republicans haven't ever done the middle class in this country any favors, and yet they've convinced millions, through their smoke and mirrors, that they are the "saviors" of the middle class and that the Democrats are evil. And that is the effect of ignorance at its worst.
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    29 Nov '16 07:31
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I am free to vote but chose not to. Infact I have never voted even before I was a Jehovahs Witness. If you wish to insinuate, fabricate values or do anything else with that fact then be my guest.

    I do not think there will be any discernible difference to the American people in terms of quality of life under a Trump administration as opposed to a ...[text shortened]... stated belong to a plutocracy. If you have anything which refutes this claim then be my guest.
    So, by your own admission, you have never voted, and yet you come on here and through many, many threads, presumed to tell Americans how to vote.

    F*** you, Robbie.
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    29 Nov '16 07:39
    Originally posted by Of Ants and Imps
    My analysis: Most people wanted to overturn the past administration's health policy, seen as the greater affront to personal liberty and the issue people are most invested in. Men and conservatives are not usually as outspoken yet are loyal to the voting process and prefer less intrusion of government. If anything to brag about he is not a careerist!
    "Most people"???

    Or only "most people who actually got to vote"?

    The Rolling Stone article in the OP details how up to 7.2 million people, mostly African-American, Hispanic or Asian, were taken off the voter rolls of 28 states. These people did not vote, and if they did vote a provisional ballot, it was never counted.
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    29 Nov '16 10:041 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Well, see, here is where ignorance really shows its ugly head.

    Hillary was perceived as "serving the interests of the elite", while Trump actually [b]does
    "serve the interests of the elite".

    The Republicans haven't ever done the middle class in this country any favors, and yet they've convinced millions, through their smoke and mirro ...[text shortened]... class and that the Democrats are evil. And that is the effect of ignorance at its worst.[/b]
    You are splitting hairs and inadvertently proving my point. As a Hillary zombie your political analysis is poor, biased and based on preconception. I by contrast remain objective and fully capable of rational thought. I cannot think of a single American President that has not served the interests of the elite.
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    29 Nov '16 10:07
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    So, by your own admission, you have never voted, and yet you come on here and through many, many threads, presumed to tell Americans how to vote.

    F*** you, Robbie.
    I have not told a single person how they should vote and you seem intent not only in fabricating falsehoods but doing it in the most unlady like manner imaginable, Please pull yourself together snowflake you are melting.
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