Originally posted by PhlabibitI saw a chess set in a children's store with letters printed on two sides, and numbers on the other two so as to facilitate notation. The board must be set up incorrectly (with dark on right) to use the printed notation aids. I complained to the management of the store. That set is no longer carried there.
I've got a box from a chess set at home... On the top, it shows the board with a1 as white.... and on the bottom they got the board set up right but the queens and kings are on the wrong colors.
Stupied! If I were taking pictures of fishing poles I sure as heck would ask about it before I did something stupid like fly-fishing at the beach for the packaging.
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Originally posted by Shanshu311ARRGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.mastersgames.com/images/giant/marble-giant-chess.jpg
Stuff like this, always cracks me up. Not only is the board set up incorrectly, with a1 being white, instead of black...but they have black moving, first.
I know it's a tad picky to point this out...but still. Do a little research, before you try to market a chess set. At least set up the board correctly before you take the picture.
Sheesh.
Originally posted by Shanshu311I sent the company a note:
http://www.mastersgames.com/images/giant/marble-giant-chess.jpg
Stuff like this, always cracks me up. Not only is the board set up incorrectly, with a1 being white, instead of black...but they have black moving, first.
I know it's a tad picky to point this out...but still. Do a little research, before you try to market a chess set. At least set up the board correctly before you take the picture.
Sheesh.
Your picture of a giant chess set has the board set up incorrectly and your model is moving a black pawn before any white pawns or pieces have moved. If you cannot get the rules correct, get out of the chess business.
And received the reply:
Usually, the pictures used on websites are simply received from the manufacturer. That is the case with this picture. Of course, the manufacturer themselves doesn't generally arrange the pictures or setup - they hire a professional photographer and model, if appropriate. Professional photographers and models are good at taking photos but are often not good at chess. Therefore, it is often the case that promotional pictures
have minor errors of detail in them.
We could, of course, attempt to take a new photograph ourselves or hire a photographer to take one with all the details entirely correct. But why would we do that when any reasonable person would not be dissuaded from buying a nice chess set just because a promotional picture taken by some random photographer isn't correct?
So it's difficult for you, isn't it? You obviously have a need to be rude and unpleasant and yet you don't think things through properly and so you end up looking silly.
c'est la vie,
James Masters.
Originally posted by WulebgrLol, that reply makes me glad that I never purchased anything from them.
I sent the company a note:
Your picture of a giant chess set has the board set up incorrectly and your model is moving a black pawn before any white pawns or pieces have moved. If you cannot get the rules correct, get out of the chess business.
And received the reply:
Usually, the pictures used on websites are simply received from the manufacturer. ...[text shortened]... ngs through properly and so you end up looking silly.
c'est la vie,
James Masters.
Originally posted by WulebgrHoly crap! Is that a real response, or were you just being clever?
I sent the company a note:
Your picture of a giant chess set has the board set up incorrectly and your model is moving a black pawn before any white pawns or pieces have moved. If you cannot get the rules correct, get out of the chess business.
And received the reply:
Usually, the pictures used on websites are simply received from the manufacturer. ...[text shortened]... ngs through properly and so you end up looking silly.
c'est la vie,
James Masters.
Either way, it's entertaining. I'm just curious.
Originally posted by WulebgrNice chap. He should join the forums, he reminds me of some people here.
I sent the company a note:
Your picture of a giant chess set has the board set up incorrectly and your model is moving a black pawn before any white pawns or pieces have moved. If you cannot get the rules correct, get out of the chess business.
And received the reply:
Usually, the pictures used on websites are simply received from the manufacturer. ...[text shortened]... ngs through properly and so you end up looking silly.
c'est la vie,
James Masters.
Originally posted by Shanshu311If its real I vote we flood them with messages concerning their lack of customer service and apparent retardness in providing a chess set made by a company who don't even know how to play.
Holy crap! Is that a real response, or were you just being clever?
Either way, it's entertaining. I'm just curious.
The rules of chess on the website of Mastersgames describe correct placement of the board and pieces, and give a good explanation of en passant. They look quite good, indeed, until the end where:
Stalemate
In chess, a draw is called a "stalemate". Stalemate can happen in one of three ways:
* It becomes impossible for either player to checkmate with the pieces remaining.
* A player's King is not in check but that player cannot move without placing the King in check.
* The same position of pieces is repeated three times with the same player to move each time.
* One player proposes a stalemate and the other player agrees to the proposal.
The second set of conditions describes a stalemate, which is a draw, but not all draws are stalemate.
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Originally posted by Wulebgr"Stalemate can happen one of three ways", yet it lists 4 😕.
The rules of chess on the website of Mastersgames describe correct placement of the board and pieces, and give a good explanation of en passant. They look quite good, indeed, until the end where:
[b]Stalemate
In chess, a draw is called a "stalemate". Stalemate can happen in one of three ways:
* It becomes impossible for either player to ...[text shortened]... set of conditions describes a stalemate, which is a draw, but not all draws are stalemate.[/b]
I sent this message to the customer service department:
"I feel it necessary to point out to you that in the promotional picture displayed on your website for the Large Chess Set, there are two outstanding errors with regards to the set. a) The model is moving black first when it should in fact be white to move first and b) The board is set up incorrectly with the bottom right square (from either black or white's perspective) being black when it should in fact be white.
Whilst I am not one to play "spot the mistake", I feel that you offering the rules to chess on your website is somewhat undermined by the fact that you, your company or whoever took the shot does not appear to understand the rules. Perhaps in future, and possibly for this product, it might be advisable for you to pick a photograph that doesn't have any mistakes in it, so that you do not risk beginners to the game picking up the wrong rules. "
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Originally posted by Freddie2006Alas, my teenage son was able to construct a scenario that makes the move in the photo possible with white playing first:
"I feel it necessary to point out to you that in the promotional picture displayed on your website for the Large Chess Set, there are two outstanding errors with regards to the set. a) The model is moving black first when it should in fact be white to move first and b) The board is set up incorrectly with the bottom right square (from either black or white's perspective) being black when it should in fact be white.
1.Nf3 e6 2.Ng1 e5.
This clever solution reinforces the point that the photo is an obvious mistake. The photo also shows the queens "on their colour," so the position is different in that respect: the e-pawn has become the queen's pawn.
Originally posted by WulebgrDear Freddie,
Alas, my teenage son was able to construct a scenario that makes the move in the photo possible with white playing first:
1.Nf3 e6 2.Ng1 e5.
[fen]rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 3[/fen]
This clever solution reinforces the point that the photo is an obvious mistake. The photo also shows the queens "on their colour," so the position is different in that respect: the e-pawn has become the queen's pawn.
Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, we have to live with what our
manufacturers give us in the way of promotional pictures for items like
this.
We do have a message next to the photo so any beginners should not become
confused. I have just improved the text a little to avoid any
misunderstandings of the sort that you infer might occur.
Arranging photo-shoots for individual products is not viable, I'm afraid, so
we're stuck with this picture for the forseeable future. Sorry about that.
cheers,
James.
They now have an "NB" next to the photo stating the mistake and mentioning that "the photographer was obviously not a chess player"!!
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Originally posted by Freddie2006The rules regarding draws have been corrected, as well. James Masters, the proprietor deserves commendation for his prompt response to the constructive criticism that he received from several RHPers.
Dear Freddie,
Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, we have to live with what our
manufacturers give us in the way of promotional pictures for items like
this.
We do have a message next to the photo so any beginners should not become
confused. I have just improved the text a little to avoid any
misunderstandings of the sort that you infer ting the mistake and mentioning that "the photographer was obviously not a chess player"!!
Mastersgames.com offers excellent quality chess products.
Originally posted by WulebgrWell, after checking out the screwed up pictures, I had a quick browse around the site. (I wonder how many other people did.) They actually have some nice stuff. It could possibly be a clever form of self-promotion....although I doubt it.
The rules regarding draws have been corrected, as well. James Masters, the proprietor deserves commendation for his prompt response to the constructive criticism that he received from several RHPers.
Mastersgames.com offers excellent quality chess products.