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I just saw a report about students in the UK getting more 2:1 degrees and some getting 2:2 degrees. Can you explain what that means in terms of the way we Americans see it with the HS diploma, AS (Associates degree two years of college), BS or BA degree, (4 year usually), MS or MA degrees, another couple years, and the top one Phd, couple more years yet. That does not include medical degrees. Wondered where these 2:1 and 2:2 degrees fit in that spectrum?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I just saw a report about students in the UK getting more 2:1 degrees and some getting 2:2 degrees. Can you explain what that means in terms of the way we Americans see it with the HS diploma, AS (Associates degree two years of college), BS or BA degree, (4 year usually), MS or MA degrees, another couple years, and the top one Phd, couple more years yet. ...[text shortened]... does not include medical degrees. Wondered where these 2:1 and 2:2 degrees fit in that spectrum?
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Originally posted by sonhouse
I just saw a report about students in the UK getting more 2:1 degrees and some getting 2:2 degrees. Can you explain what that means in terms of the way we Americans see it with the HS diploma, AS (Associates degree two years of college), BS or BA degree, (4 year usually), MS or MA degrees, another couple years, and the top one Phd, couple more years yet. ...[text shortened]... does not include medical degrees. Wondered where these 2:1 and 2:2 degrees fit in that spectrum?
No idea what the grade system is like in the USA but from a quick Google search, roughly converting GPA's:

3.7 - 4.0 = 1st
3.3 - 3.69 = 2:1
2.7 - 3.29 = 2:2

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Originally posted by Daemon Sin
No idea what the grade system is like in the USA but from a quick Google search, roughly converting GPA's:

3.7 - 4.0 = 1st
3.3 - 3.69 = 2:1
2.7 - 3.29 = 2:2
That is a grade point average system? I had no idea, not used to seeing colons in the place of decimal points. So lower numbers represents higher grades? Seems backwards somehow. I thought it had to do somehow with the level of degree, BA/MA etc,.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
That is a grade point average system? I had no idea, not used to seeing colons in the place of decimal points. So lower numbers represents higher grades? Seems backwards somehow. I thought it had to do somehow with the level of degree, BA/MA etc,.
No, the colons merely seperate the quality of the grade. A 1:1 is a first, a 2:1 is a high 2nd, a 2:2 is a low second. It has nothing really to do with quantitive measures.

BA (Bachelor of Arts) is the initial 3 yr degree in an arts subject, MA (Master of Arts) is the 1yr follow up degree in an arts subject. Likewise BSc is a Bachelor of Science and MSc is a master of science. These are not grades, they are degree levels.

After completing a Masters, you can go on to do a PhD (Doctorate in Philosophy, although the subject is not necessarily philosophy itself).

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Originally posted by Starrman
No, the colons merely seperate the quality of the grade. A 1:1 is a first, a 2:1 is a high 2nd, a 2:2 is a low second. It has nothing really to do with quantitive measures.

BA (Bachelor of Arts) is the initial 3 yr degree in an arts subject, MA (Master of Arts) is the 1yr follow up degree in an arts subject. Likewise BSc is a Bachelor of Science and ...[text shortened]... o do a PhD (Doctorate in Philosophy, although the subject is not necessarily philosophy itself).
So 1:1 is equivalent to 4.0? 2:1 = 3.5 or something? 2:2= 3.0?

So if a BA is three years and one more year for an MA, Doesn't that make the MA equivalent to a BA in the US?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So 1:1 is equivalent to 4.0? 2:1 = 3.5 or something? 2:2= 3.0?

So if a BA is three years and one more year for an MA, Doesn't that make the MA equivalent to a BA in the US?
I mean in the same way as an A is indicative of a range of grades, so too is a 1st, 2nd or 3rd.

Not all BA's are 3 yrs, it was a general rule. We learn faster...