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    30 Oct '15 14:47
    It seems to me that a company that hosts forums has certain corporate interests. In no particular order, they are enough happy customers, enough happy employees and enough happy owners.

    Be that as it may or may not be, does anyone here have experience with unmoderated forums? How do things go? Do they last, as such?

    Here's a quote from

    https://theadminzone.com/threads/are-unmoderated-forums-usually-successful-long-term.22390/

    "The reason I ask that question is that for a few years, the forum has gotten unmoderated (everything goes, free speech, but no porn),..."

    It's peculiar that the writer says the forum of which he speaks is unmoderated in the same breath as "but no porn."

    Self-moderated thoughts, anyone?
  2. Standard memberSeitse
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    Yeah, I'm all in.
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    30 Oct '15 14:56
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Yeah, I'm all in.
    I have experience of a number of forums over the years.

    For myself, I dislike unmoderated forums. They lead to a free-for-all chaos.

    In my experience, a good forum is well moderated with clearly set out rules or terms of service, and tight discipline. Forums run like that tend to be the friendliest and the most agreeable places to be.

    By and large in that sort of forum the moderation is hardly ever visible because it never needs to be exercised. Those forums are few and far between but when they exist they're great places to be. Hassle-free.
  4. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    30 Oct '15 15:02
    Originally posted by Startreader
    I have experience of a number of forums over the years.

    For myself, I dislike unmoderated forums. They lead to a free-for-all chaos.

    In my experience, a good forum is well moderated with clearly set out rules or terms of service, and tight discipline. Forums run like that tend to be the friendliest and the most agreeable places to be.

    By and ...[text shortened]... hose forums are few and far between but when they exist they're great places to be. Hassle-free.
    Well said; we agree.
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    30 Oct '15 15:50
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Well said; we agree.
    shut up, nosebrowner
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    30 Oct '15 16:02
    Originally posted by Seitse
    shut up, nosebrowner
    Hey....nice chatting with you dude. Gotta hit the sack now but you go on. Just put me down for a yes to everything.
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    30 Oct '15 17:42
    Originally posted by Startreader
    I have experience of a number of forums over the years.

    For myself, I dislike unmoderated forums. They lead to a free-for-all chaos.

    In my experience, a good forum is well moderated with clearly set out rules or terms of service, and tight discipline. Forums run like that tend to be the friendliest and the most agreeable places to be.

    By and ...[text shortened]... hose forums are few and far between but when they exist they're great places to be. Hassle-free.
    History and human development theory show that learning how to play and work well with others requires the ability and willingness to learn and follow rules. However they also show that societies that stifle the rebel are disadvantaged compared to those having some tolerance. China is learning the costs of uniform limitations on family size.
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    30 Oct '15 18:14
    Originally posted by Seitse
    shut up, nosebrowner
    3 disagree with you...BTW..It is called Brownnoser! 😛
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    30 Oct '15 18:17
    Originally posted by JS357
    History and human development theory show that learning how to play and work well with others requires the ability and willingness to learn and follow rules. However they also show that societies that stifle the rebel are disadvantaged compared to those having some tolerance. China is learning the costs of uniform limitations on family size.
    True.

    An important feature is that the rules be clearly set out and understood.

    In this case, in this current forum, that's not quite the case, as threads and posts from participants in the Clans forum have, throughout the day, been disappearing for absolutely no apparent reason. One can't help feeling that this cannot be what was intended.

    Let's face it. The suspension of the Clans forum had been brought about not by any action or inaction of the vast majority of its members but by the execrable behaviour of two or possibly three members which inevitably provoked appeals from the members to the moderators. Given that the whole situation has grown because one RHP member has flagrantly flouted the rules, a fact which has been acknowledged by admin, and is now once again rebuilding the same situation, the outlook is less optimistic than one might hope.

    Sorry for being cryptic. It's all one can dare to be in the current circumstances and even now I can sense the deleting fingers creeping towards the button.

    Hey ho! What can one do?
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    31 Oct '15 07:51
    Originally posted by Very Rusty
    3 disagree with you...BTW..It is called Brownnoser! 😛
    Says who? It's idiomatic, dawg. Like, fo sho
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    31 Oct '15 10:11
    Originally posted by JS357
    It seems to me that a company that hosts forums has certain corporate interests. In no particular order, they are enough happy customers, enough happy employees and enough happy owners.

    Be that as it may or may not be, does anyone here have experience with unmoderated forums? How do things go? Do they last, as such?

    Here's a quote from

    https://theadmi ...[text shortened]... e speaks is unmoderated in the same breath as "but no porn."

    Self-moderated thoughts, anyone?
    I've not had any experience with "unmoderated forums", just as I don't generally find myself in a bad part of town after dark, either.

    Every forum I have ever posted in has been moderated, despite the whining crybabies who bleat about the forum being unmoderated because their personal requests are being ignored. Good moderation is 90% invisible.
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    31 Oct '15 10:17
    Originally posted by JS357
    Be that as it may or may not be, does anyone here have experience with unmoderated forums? How do things go? Do they last, as such?
    Yahoo Groups were (apparently) unmoderated ~ and they got rid of them in the end - I think perhaps because they couldn't compete with increasingly sophisticated and dynamic social media. They were also infested by bots.

    I used to download stuff using soulseek - P2P - which had a plethora of unmoderated forums - mostly unpopulated - and things were often very vicious and depraved. Still going as far as I know. I could never really understand the entertainment people were getting from it.
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    01 Nov '15 07:19
    The problem is in my view that there are people who tend to be unfriendly and overly aggressive as long as they are hidden. May that be the trash talk at work in the group of peers or internet groups in which they hide behind a screenname.

    As do I of course, it is just prudent to be sparse with information about oneself...

    However some people know no bonds. On the other hand we do have the "blockwart", that is people who try to yield the power of the power behind them. They should also be moderated to a degree.
  14. Standard memberSeitse
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    01 Nov '15 07:55
    Originally posted by Ponderable
    However some people know no bonds.
    I wholeheartedly agree. That is why financial education is a key
    element of the syllabus, not only at higher level but from basic.

    Yeah, sure, everybody knows about stocks, but that's not the whole
    story!
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    01 Nov '15 08:21
    Originally posted by Startreader
    ... The suspension of the Clans forum had been brought about not by any action or inaction of the vast majority of its members but by the execrable behaviour of two or possibly three members which inevitably provoked appeals from the members to the moderators. Given that the whole situation has grown because one RHP member has flagrantly flouted the rule ...[text shortened]... urrent circumstances and even now I can sense the deleting fingers creeping towards the button.
    It is unfortunate that a few rogues can destroy something good for many others.

    It must have gotten pretty unruly for the heavy hand of Authority to have come down so hard. When the kids are squabbling in the back seat and dad's trying to concentrate on driving, he is liable to take a swat without looking too closely who gets smacked.
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