Originally posted by mochironNo, my protest is against animals suffering to become my food. My sister and her husband has a farm where animals aren't mistreated. I could buy meat from her only. But that won't sustain me a full year. So, since I have no idea where the meat comes from in the stores, or how well the animals producing milk are treated, I'll go vegetarian (eventually vegan I suppose).
...you are killing living plants and vegetables when you consume them as well. Does that make the life of a plant less than that of an animal? We are all made of stars you know.....
It's not like it will affect any of the large businesses but at least I won't have to feel guilty about what's happening in some parts of the world.
It's the suffering. Not what I'm eating. I can't see how a plant would suffer much, since it has no brain. But then again, I could be wrong. 😕
Originally posted by stockenthen you can't drink coke or eat any nestle products any more.
Since I'm doing this in protest against the animal torture all over the planet
remind me to find the links for you to explain why.
i know why you want to do this, about 3 years ago i had the same thought and was a vegie for about 4 months but missed chicken too much. so now i eat chicken (free range) once a week, i haven't ate any red meat for 3 years and i don't miss it.
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Originally posted by stockenWell seeing as the little woman and I eat vegetarian about 95% of our meals, here is my favorite that my little italian woman introduced me to.
Anyone got any good recipe's they'd recommend? 😕
Broccoli Rabe pasta.
note: broccoli rabe also called rapini can be hard to come by, luckily I live in florida and it's easy to find due to all the italians from jersey wintering/living here. broccoli rabe is definitely not the same as normal broccoli, don't use this recipe for just plain broccoli
Ingredients:
3 heads of broccoli rabe.
1 or 2 whole bulbs of garlice (we love garlic)
dried red pepper flakes
1 can of dark red kidney beans
1 box of pasta (i like penne for this dish)
Steps:
1. Fill bottom of saucepan with olive oil put on medium heat.
2. Peel and chop/mince garlic bulbs, put result in saucepan
3. Throw in some red pepper flakes or other dried peppers (i like things spicy, so i use a lot)
4. Start water boiling...
5. Chop off the bottom of the stems of the broccoli rabe. Then chop up the broccoli rabe. Coursely, just chop it up, doesn't have to be minced or anything.
6. When garlic is lightly golden, starting to brown, throw the broccoli rabe in the sauce pan and stir it around in the olive oil. Keep the saucepan on medium.
7. open can of beans and RINSE them off good in a strainer (my experience is non-rinsing makes them taste bad)
8. Broccoli rabe is probably cooked now, reduce heat to medium-low and mix in the beans. Reduce heat as needed.
9. Boil pasta, remove pasta
10. Mix the saucepan ingredients (oil, beans, broccoli rabe, peppers) in with the cooked pasta -- mixes best in big bowl.
11. Serve with a chianti.
Enjoy
I've been vegan for about 10 years and veggie for 15. I'm not remotely motivated by animal rights, to be honest I'm not even anti-foxhunting. All that was just a petty class war anyway. I tend to find that people who are originally motivated by the moral standpoint tend to grow out of it.
I posted this recently but here it is again. It's interesting, and also quite encouraging. http://www.famousveggie.com/peoplenew.cfm I'm not preaching, it just shows that you can be successful, strong, intelligent, fast, beautiful and creative without ingesting hog fat.
The worst thing about being veggie and living abroad like I do is that people don't understand, and can even get offended if you refuse their offers. I can accept this if I'm refusing chocolate or something, but if they get offended I won't eat the wild boar they just carved up it's their problem.
As for Mochiron's post about not being veggie any more, I also have plans to teach in Russia, and fortunately I know of plenty of veggies who've done it.
Originally posted by asromacalcioJust out of interest, what made you decide to become a veggie if it wasn't any animal rights kind of thing?
I've been vegan for about 10 years and veggie for 15. I'm not remotely motivated by animal rights, to be honest I'm not even anti-foxhunting. All that was just a petty class war anyway. I tend to find that people who are originally motivated by the moral standpoint tend to grow out of it.
I posted this recently but here it is again. It's interesting, ...[text shortened]... plans to teach in Russia, and fortunately I know of plenty of veggies who've done it.
Originally posted by WheelyI used to live on kebabs. I needed a motivating factor to change my habits and it seemed a worthwhile challenge. The longer it went on the better I felt and the more I found I needed answers, the more I read and the more I found out that it was a pretty good approach to life.
Just out of interest, what made you decide to become a veggie if it wasn't any animal rights kind of thing?
I could go on for a long time but I won't. There are however many very good reasons to turn veggie. Not that they're all very good for everybody, but they were very good for me.
Originally posted by asromacalcioThanks.
I used to live on kebabs. I needed a motivating factor to change my habits and it seemed a worthwhile challenge. The longer it went on the better I felt and the more I found I needed answers, the more I read and the more I found out that it was a pretty good approach to life.
I could go on for a long time but I won't. There are however many very good ...[text shortened]... to turn veggie. Not that they're all very good for everybody, but they were very good for me.
Certainly an unusual reason as far as I know. It takes something to recognize a problem and a solution like that.
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Originally posted by rbmorrisActually, fish is never 'right' when being vegetarian. It is still an animal killed. One eating vegetarian including fish might be called a pescotarian, though. But please, don't make the error a lot of people make by thinking a vegetarian might eat fish too. No cows, no cute piggies, no fish, no ants, no wurms and no eyeballs.
Are you going vegan or just vegetarian? Is fish ok? Eggs?
The argument that fish are catched in the sea, lakes, rivers and oceans and therefor are 'okay' to eat because they have had a good life, are not very valid. The fish people get on their plates are more and more breed (bread?) in fish farms. The watery equivalent of the 'normal' industrial breeding farms. No fun for fish.
In answer to the initial question of this thread, it is not hard to be a vegetarian. One only has to keep an eye on a menu and list of ingredient. And an occasinal approach of normal thinking. It really isn't hard. I have been vegetarian for over 15 years. What I do mostly is eating 'normal', but just leave the meat ingredient out of everything. The number of dishes you can make are still infinite without the loss of taste. There are even vegetarian meat surrogates that look and taste quite like meat or fish. The latter can mostly be bought at an Asian shop / toko.