Originally posted by RagnorakOh sorry, I misunderstood. What I meant is I don't see the point in paying so much extra for Waitrose' big blue O food when I can buy from farms etc. when I get the chance. Mostly it must be said, I do just buy normal fruit and veg from the supermarket for convenience though.
You said, "don't buy organic because of the price and quite frankly I don't see the point in it"
Fair enough, the price might be prohibitive, but I just don't get what you mean by 'quite frankly I don't see the point in it'. You don't see the point in organic produce, or you don't see the point in paying extra for organic produce?
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I support the fair trade idea, all though the stores where I live don't carry it. Most of my produce/eggs/pork I get from family friends around here for a very cheap price or even free in some cases (I live in a rural area). I don't , however, like the idea of Organic food. It is more expensive because it takes more money/land to grow. Pesticide and fertizler runoff into rivers and lakes should be controled but wasting more land with farms than needs to be isn't the best solution. I am hugely in support of bio-engineered crops and using engineered parasitic wasps as pest control instead of chemical pesticides. We should work on making better plants and better fertilizers and pest control instead of just using less efficient farming.
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowCrikey. Where to start???
I support the fair trade idea, all though the stores where I live don't carry it. Most of my produce/eggs/pork I get from family friends around here for a very cheap price or even free in some cases (I live in a rural area). I don't , however, like the idea of Organic food. It is more expensive because it takes more money/land to grow. Pesticide ...[text shortened]... ter plants and better fertilizers and pest control instead of just using less efficient farming.
Who says that organic farming is less efficient? If anything it is waay more efficient, just not as lazy.
Who says that organic farms need more land?
If I told you that I was going to put a drop of poison which is poisonous in dilutions of 1 part per billion on all your food, would you eat it? This is effectively what all of us do on a daily basis. Hence, the massively high rate of cancer.
Could you expand a bit on these bio-engineered parasitic wasps??? What type of effect will they have on our ecosystem? On the foodchain? What are their natural predators? How will they effect the cross pollination of other plant species?
How can you support the ideas behind Fairtrade and promote slavery in the same paragraph??? Non organic food is only cheap due to the reduced non-skilled (usually poor immigrants) manpower required to spread gallons of pesticides, instead of laying out properly organised farms.
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Originally posted by RagnorakOne recently proven result of organic farming is less strain on
Crikey. Where to start???
Who says that organic farming is less efficient? If anything it is waay more efficient, just not as lazy.
Who says that organic farms need more land?
If I told you that I was going to put a drop of poison which is poisonous in dilutions of 1 part per billion on all your food, would you eat it? This is effectively what ...[text shortened]... r required to spread gallons of pesticides, instead of laying out properly organised farms.
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the indiginous plant and animal populations, in other words, less
interferance with nature. The lands around organic farms are
less polluted which means a more natural environment for normal
population of birds, insects, the whole eco-system. That alone
seems to me justification for abandoning regular farming and
going back to organic.
One interesting thing I saw on a trip to Toronto, lake Simco, last year:
A bit of background: I love avacadoes, was raised in avacado
country in southern california (no more there now sadly) But the price
for avacadoes hovers at $2.00 EACH now. So up in Toronto in the
open air marketplace, I saw avacadoes for about 25 CENTS each.
So what is going on here? Avacadoes are not grown in canada, its
a tropical thing. So they have to get them the same place the
american market gets them, wherever that is, Florida, Mexico,
whatever. So up here in Pennsylvania they are shipped and we pay
upwards of $1.50 and then they ship the same produce another
500 miles and charge 25 cents? How does one explain that?
Oh, could it be maybe........
GREED?
Originally posted by sonhouseSo go into the non-profit avacado business and make a killing.
One recently proven result of organic farming is less strain on
the indiginous plant and animal populations, in other words, less
interferance with nature. The lands around organic farms are
less polluted which means a more natural environment for normal
population of birds, insects, the whole eco-system. That alone
seems to me justification for abando ...[text shortened]... 500 miles and charge 25 cents? How does one explain that?
Oh, could it be maybe........
GREED?