Does sealioning include posting misinformation such as "you did such and such last year" to try and create a reaction?
If the misinformation/ bare faced lie includes the suggestion that somebody displayed a weakness at that time is that simply gaslighting or is it now sealioning as well?
Is the factitious claim sufficient to be called sealioning or is it only sealioning when the cross examination about the factitious event begins?
Is this abusive posting or is it reasonable?
@relentless-red saidDescribing your Orwellian attempt to define the word "hypocrisy" last year ~ so as to painstakingly NOT implicate Suzianne ~ as ludicrous is not "misinformation" or a "bare-faced lie".
If the misinformation/ bare faced lie includes the suggestion that somebody displayed a weakness at that time is that simply gaslighting or is it now sealioning as well?
Is the factitious claim sufficient to be called sealioning or is it only sealioning when the cross examination about the factitious event begins?
Is this abusive posting or is it reasonable?
"Sealioning" is perhaps what you are doing now by starting whole threads to 'define words' instead of just calling stuff out in threads when you see it.
@fmf saidOrwellian?
Describing your Orwellian attempt to define the word "hypocrisy" last year ~ so as to painstakingly NOT implicate Suzianne ~ as ludicrous is not "misinformation" or a "bare-faced lie".
"Sealioning" is perhaps what you are doing now by starting whole threads to 'define words' instead of just calling stuff out in threads when you see it.
Nope more like Dickens.
@relentless-red saidI think when it comes to defining "hypocrisy", "sealioning" and "gaslighting" you are trying too hard to NOT point the finger at certain people. Rather obviously so.
If a reply perpetuates a process rather than causing change, should you reply or leave?
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@relentless-red saidAlways leave, because one reply to a troll leads to another...then another...then another...
If a reply perpetuates a process rather than causing change, should you reply or leave?
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An essay in the collection Perspectives on Harmful Speech Online, published by the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society at Harvard, noted:
Rhetorically, sealioning fuses persistent questioning—often about basic information, information easily found elsewhere, or unrelated or tangential points—with a loudly-insisted-upon commitment to reasonable debate. It disguises itself as a sincere attempt to learn and communicate. Sealioning thus works both to exhaust a target's patience, attention, and communicative effort, and to portray the target as unreasonable. While the questions of the "sea lion" may seem innocent, they're intended maliciously and have harmful consequences.
— Amy Johnson, Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society (May 2019)
Sound familiar? At all?
@fmf saidI don't think you grasp the actual meaning of those words.
I think when it comes to defining "hypocrisy", "sealioning" and "gaslighting" you are trying too hard to NOT point the finger at certain people. Rather obviously so.
Those "certain people" are the main progenitors of this behavior at RHP.