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Originally posted by ale1552
I have always wondered why people start smoking in the first place. It ... is addictive
Uhm, yeah... Kinda answered your own question there, didn't you.


It becomes a habit. I've kicked it probably about 20 times in the 14 years I've been smoking, for periods between 2 months and once for a whole year.
Then I start again. Especially when you have a few drinks. The 2 go hand in hand so well.
These days I smoke only about 5 a day, but I used to go through a pack easily.

I gotta tell you, there is nothing better than having a STRONG coffee after a good, hearty meal and lighting up a Stuyvesant Extra Mild...

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Originally posted by Crowley
Uhm, yeah... Kinda answered your own question there, didn't you.


It becomes a habit. I've kicked it probably about 20 times in the 14 years I've been smoking, for periods between 2 months and once for a whole year.
Then I start again. Especially when you have a few drinks. The 2 go hand in hand so well.
These days I smoke only about 5 a day, but I u ...[text shortened]... n having a STRONG coffee after a good, hearty meal and lighting up a Stuyvesant Extra Mild...
You're making my throat gag for a fag! 😠

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Originally posted by mikelom
That's all it takes. Planning and a will are all mental things. Only weak puffs can't control their insatiable desires in craving bad habits 😛

You're making my throat gag for a fag! 😠
Feeling a little weaker, are we? 😛

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Originally posted by mikelom
You're making my throat gag for a fag! 😠
I don't swing that way, sorry.

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Originally posted by Jigtie
Feeling a little weaker, are we? 😛I
I crave! I didn't say I can't control! 😉

I choose whether I smoke or not. I currently choose not and will maintain no smoking.

If I GIVE in I am indeed a puff! 😀

Craving will remain with me for a very long time I believe.

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Originally posted by Crowley
I don't swing that way, sorry.
Don't apologise. We all have our own little problems, don't we flower? 😉

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Originally posted by mikelom
I crave! I didn't say I can't control! 😉

I choose whether I smoke or not. I currently choose not and will maintain no smoking.

If I GIVE in I am indeed a puff! 😀

Craving will remain with me for a very long time I believe.
My daughter was sick with bronchiolitis a while back and the paediatrician said our smoking - we smoke nowhere near her - on our clothes and breath, could be exacerbating it.

I went home, threw my pack in the trash and didn't smoke for 3 months. Then she got better and I just started again.
I'm hooked!

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Originally posted by Crowley
My daughter was sick with bronchiolitis a while back and the paediatrician said our smoking - we smoke nowhere near her - on our clothes and breath, could be exacerbating it.

I went home, threw my pack in the trash and didn't smoke for 3 months. Then she got better and I just started again.
I'm hooked!
My son had pneumonia at 6 months. I had been in China for 3, between his being 3 and 6 months. The hospital in Thailand blamed my smoking for giving him pneumonia, and I also never smoked near him when at home for the first 3 months. I smoked outside, at the bottom of the garden, and also changed my clothes 3 times a day (well you tend to do that here anyway).

I'm afraid, even if you are on the other side of the planet and not responsible, if you smoke you will be blamed for something affecting the health of those around you.

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I tend to take the view that smoking (and drinking) is not expensive. All it costs people is their lives, and they dont put much value on their lives, because if they did, they would never subject themselves to such ridiculous danger. I am not being judgemental or taking the moral high ground in saying that. I was a chain-smoker for 25 years and a wine addict for 27 years, but I walked away from both habits with no withdrawal symptoms and never came close to wanting booze or tobacco since that day. The expected nightmare turned out to be the easiest thing I have ever done. If I can do it, anyone can, I have no will power so obviously that is not required. All you would have to do is believe that what worked for me can work for you also. Unfortunately nobody seems to want to believe me, so all I will say is as long as you believe that it's difficult, even impossible, to quit, then guess what... you will continue to be right.

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Originally posted by muppyman
I tend to take the view that smoking (and drinking) is not expensive. All it costs people is their lives, and they dont put much value on their lives, because if they did, they would never subject themselves to such ridiculous danger. I am not being judgemental or taking the moral high ground in saying that. I was a chain-smoker for 25 years and a wine addi ...[text shortened]... hat it's difficult, even impossible, to quit, then guess what... you will continue to be right.
I agree completely. I quit booze and smoking, 7 months and 2 months, nearly, respectively. I smoked for 25 years also. Stopping smoking was easy, so easy I still worry why it was easy. But I do believe there is will, or something similarly necessary, to maintain abstinence; be it concentration, a partner, a reason or an illness. There is a thought process started that makes us want to stop, i.e. we don't just stop without thinking about it. That thought process has to be kicked off by something and I maintain it is that something that helps in abstinence, yes??

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Originally posted by muppyman
I tend to take the view that smoking (and drinking) is not expensive. All it costs people is their lives, and they dont put much value on their lives, because if they did, they would never subject themselves to such ridiculous danger. I am not being judgemental or taking the moral high ground in saying that. I was a chain-smoker for 25 years and a wine addi ...[text shortened]... hat it's difficult, even impossible, to quit, then guess what... you will continue to be right.
There are many health benefits of moderate alcohol consumption.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
There are many health benefits of moderate alcohol consumption.
Especially red wine? I can't remember exactly what it is - but this is why I try to cover all my bases by drinking a little of EVERYTHING...

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-Removed-
It's easy to quit if you really want to. I don't care too much.

Sometimes I had to, sometimes I wanted to, but overall I enjoy it, so probably won't quit for the foreseeable future.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Especially red wine? I can't remember exactly what it is - but this is why I try to cover all my bases by drinking a little of EVERYTHING...
They used to say red wine was the best. Now I think they say all alcohol consumed in moderation is good for your heart and circculation. I heard some researchers concluded that it also helps with high cholesterol, diabeties. Beer helps reduce kidney stones. I even heard that a couple shots of strong liquor every night can eliminate artritis. Then there is the relaxation and stress reducing benefits which can help with reducing high blood pressure.

Some of this is what is handed down from old fogies I know. Of course these oldtimers had a totally different lifestyle, which also included taking occasional pull from a chillum (marijuana) after a hard days work in the sugar cane, cocoa and coffee plantations.... 🙂