Originally posted by Asher123Well asher,if the mods shut you up one day,we'll see then how intresting you think it is.
it seems to me deleating a thread is a far more drastic step than closing it. At least this way people who weren't on when it was posted can see it and then ask questions like 'closing threads????' which stimulates this unbelievably interesting conversation 🙄
I fail to see the grounds for such a comparison. To my mind, there is nothing wrong with that thread - the owner and developer of the site even saw fit to contribute to it. The thread, while not for all tastes, is an altogether different one from the ruben fine thread. The ruben fine thread contained an empty post, one containing the words "mutual masturbation" and nothing else apart from a thread title that was garbled, miss-spelt and of no value.
If your aim is to find examples of moderator inconsistency, or moderators not spotting something in a particular post then I can guarantee that you will find such examples. And? So? Whether the ruben fine thread had been left open, closed or hidden is it really worth going to all this fuss? Is it not apparant that the mods are just regular users doing their best in any given situation?
If you feel that is not good enough or wish to propose changes to moderation practices then you could do worse than posting in "Help & Site Ideas" suggesting how you would change matters, or better yet sending feedback to the site owners.
T1000
I don't want to stick with the ruben fine thread,I just want to hear site users' opinion about the principle of closing forum's threads.
I agree that the r.f. thread was silly but that's not a good reason to close it:if it's silly, people just won't post in it and within some days the thread disappears from the first page.
Or you close all silly threads or you don't close any,and you can't say that speaking about Bin Laden's penis size (The never ending story thread)is not drivel only because a site developer posted in it .
However I appreciated mod's operating in other cases,I just think that a thread should be closed only when users are offending each other,when there's racism or similar things, and when there's very offensive language.
A pointless thread doesn't harm anyone and it's forgotten very early.
in friendship,Ravello
Originally posted by Ravello
I don't want to stick with the ruben fine thread,I just want to hear site users' opinion about the principle of closing forum's threads.
I agree that the r.f. thread was silly but that's not a good reason to close it:if it's silly, people just won't post in it and within some days the thread disappears from the first page.
Or you close all silly thre ...[text shortened]...
A pointless thread doesn't harm anyone and it's forgotten very early.
in friendship,Ravello
you can't say that speaking about Bin Laden's penis size (The never ending story thread)is not drivel only because a site developer posted in it.
I agree. And I didn't. Or at least I certainly didn't mean to. The thread has content and a purpose and is providing relatively harmless entertainment for some users of the site.
I just think that a thread should be closed only when users are offending each other,when there's racism or similar things, and when there's very offensive language.
And as with SirLoseALote, your opinion is noted. Unlike you however, the other moderators, Chrismo and Russ, other users of the site (not all) don't think that leaving a drivellous thread open will just see it naturally go down the page and be forgotten about. Time and time again people carry on posting in a similar vein. Hence the decision to close the thread - so as to allow it to drift down the page and not lead to posts contrary to the TOS. If posts contain racism or similar things, or very offensive language, then it is in those instances that the posts will be removed.
I think there is a very valid argument - given the reactions that these things are provoking, for moderation changes/additional features, such as the closure of a thread - for there to be a posting explaining the motivation behind such an introduction, and in what general kind of situation it will be used.
Also in friendship,
T1000
Wow, interesting thread here. I really don't see the point of all this fuss. If it had been a thread that had a conversation going and people were interested in it that was all of a sudden closed because someone started posting offensive content, then I could see a big argument about it start. But that little thread? What's the point? I really don't get it. It doesn't even have anything to do with our rights, imo, because no one was affected adversely, or at least they shouldn't have let themselves be.
Think of it this way- what if that thread was allowed to stay open, and the person who started it kept posting in it, got bored, and decided to venture off into other threads and started posting drivel everywhere. Everyone would start demanding that the mods do their jobs and get rid of it. I'm thinking of a case of this that happened not too long ago. I'm not saying that is what would have happened, but it COULD have. So, my point being...in this senario, if they left the thread open they would end up getting yelled at to do their jobs. But they closed it, trying to avoid a bigger headache later on, and an argument starts that they overstepped their bounds. Doesn't it seem like the general concensus here is that the mods just can't do anything right? That just doesn't seem fair to me, and I hope it doesn't to others also.
ncrosby🙂
Originally posted by ncrosbySo don't waste your precious thoughts in a pointless thread like this and go post in a more interesting thread.................
Wow, interesting thread here. I really don't see the point of all this fuss. But that little thread? What's the point? I really don't get it.
ncrosby🙂
Originally posted by ncrosbyThis is not about that silly little thread,it never was,not to me at least.From what I get from T1000's explanations it was closed because it had no meaning and also as a precautionary measure.I don't agree with this.Every thread can suddenly burst out in bad language or whatever,only takes one nutcase.You might as well close down the forums then.Personally,I don't want that,and I think neither do you.
Wow, interesting thread here. I really don't see the point of all this fuss. If it had been a thread that had a conversation going and people were interested in it that was all of a sudden closed because someone started posting offensive ...[text shortened]... em fair to me, and I hope it doesn't to others also.
ncrosby🙂
And about the person who started it going off to post drivel in other threads,well,that is not stopped by closing this one,on the contrary it might even provoke it.
Anyway,I hold no grudges against the mods,I just felt closing that thread was a rash and wrong action.I also didn't know they had the option to close threads so I asked about the how and why.Subsequently the thread I asked about this got closed,apparently as a joke,I don't know,but I certainly wasn't laughing.
Indeed the mods can't do good for everybody,that's impossible with so many different characters,opinions,beliefs,etc... on this site.And no it's not fair.Referees never get a fair treatment.But I can't keep quiet every time I disagree with something.I only speak up 10% of the time as it is,the rest of the time I just let it slide,that's not too bad,is it?
I'm sure the mods do their best to judge everything in a honest way.But I will keep questioning their actions if I disagree and think something should be said.It's prolly a good thing that I only see like 20% of what they do,or I'd be spending all my time complaining about it.
Lord Lot.
Originally posted by SirLoseALotThis paragraph I can't argue with. It's not always fair for the mods, but you can't be expected to keep quiet about everything you disagree with. Good point made, so I'll stay out of it and let you guys continue on 😏.
Indeed the mods can't do good for everybody,that's impossible with so many different characters,opinions,beliefs,etc... on this site.And no it's not fair.Referees never get a fair treatment.But I can't keep quiet every time I disagree with something.I only speak up 10% of the time as it is,the rest of the time I just let it slide,that's not too bad,is it?
Lord Lot.
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ncrosby🙂
Originally posted by ncrosbyBetter yet,let's end it here.I guess all has been said,no?
This paragraph I can't argue with. It's not always fair for the mods, but you can't be expected to keep quiet about everything you disagree with. Good point made, so I'll stay out of it and let you guys continue on 😏.
ncrosby🙂
Time to get back to chess.Now if one of my oppo's would be so nice to actually move....😉
A restless Lord Lot