Originally posted by greenphantomafter Heisel, I think Everton were our top side and wonder how many Euro trophies that ban cost them. I am not an Everton fan btw.
Your a Milan fan then? You could wonder how many more cups we may have won if we had not been banned from european competition after Hessel of cause it was all are fault then you will say as well
Originally posted by sjegStrangely enough I never noticed that Dudek moved 10 meters forward with each penalty, nor did anyone I know (and I know quite a few people) tell me about it. (was this in the italian newspaper or something?)
AND after your goalkeeper cheated the Italians in the European final by being one yard from the penalty spot each time, and the officials let it go, my sympathy as for Liverpool being "done by ref & linesmen" is rather limited.
Sorry.
I don't understand either why you complain about the goalkeeper when the ref should take care of it. Some refs allow more, some refs allow less things. Either way, it seems Milan just has a problem with penalties, looking at past finals..
Look, I also was quite angry when Ajax lost 3-2 to Milan in 2003 in the quarter finals of the Champions League, Milan scoring in the last minute of the game after one of Ajax's defenders 'slipped' away. They played extremely well that day, and didn't deserve to be thrown out of the tournament. It's soccer.
Milan had alot of chances in the second half of their game against Liverpool, but they didn't score. They also got some chances in the extra time, but they didn't score then either. That was their biggest mistake in the game.
I only saw the first 20 minutes of Liverpool - Sao Paulo. From what I read here, they got a lesson in effectivity, just like Milan a few months back. If you really are a good team, the randomness of referee decisions shouldn't affect your results. Tough luck if it does.
Sure, he was outside the six yard box for most when the ball was kicked. The rules say the keeper should be:
1) on his line
and
2) stationary.
He was neither. It's up to the ref to tell him, true. But pretty poor show on the night. If you didn't see this mentioned, were you perchance reading the unbiased English press?
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Originally posted by greenphantomYes, but like all of the other games the English claim to have invented, you only realised how brilliant you were when other people started playing it too, and routinely showing you how these games should be played.
i dont thing Dudek moving off the line made much difference i think Milan were taking their kicks Rugby style
anyway we invented the game nuff said
Anyway, on football:
"Documented evidence of what is possibly the oldest organized activity resembling football can be found in a Chinese military manual written during the Han Dynasty in about 2nd century BC."
And better still:
"Calcio Fiorentino
Main article: Calcio Fiorentino
In the 16th century, the city of Florence celebrated the period between Epiphany and Lent by playing a game known as "o Calcio storico" ("kickball in costume"😉 in the Piazza della Novere or the Piazza Santa Croce. The young aristocrats of the city would dress up in fine silk costumes and embroil themselves in a violent form of football. For example, calcio players could punch, shoulder charge, and kick opponents. Blows below the belt were allowed. The game is said to have originated as a military training exercise. The most famous match took place on February 17, 1530. While the troops of Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor were besieging Florence, a game of calcio was organised as a show of defiance. In 1580, Count Giovanni de' Bardi di Vernio wrote Discorso sopra 'l giuoco del Calcio Fiorentino. This is sometimes credited as the earliest known published rules of any football game."
From wikipedia.
Learn something new every day?
Originally posted by schakuhrMilan just has a problem with penalites, looking at past finals....
Strangely enough I never noticed that Dudek moved 10 meters forward with each penalty, nor did anyone I know (and I know quite a few people) tell me about it. (was this in the italian newspaper or something?)
I don't understand either why you complain about the goalkeeper when the ref should take care of it. Some refs allow more, some refs allow less th ...[text shortened]... team, the randomness of referee decisions shouldn't affect your results. Tough luck if it does.
looking at the pervious final milan was in (2003) they seemed to be okay with pens.