Computer use for making moves.

we see the theme right now:

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewpublicgames.php?p1name=dscp&p2name=&showgamescode=I

by removing the moves made by dscp's opponents, we see only dscp's moves:

Game id Players Ratings Last Move Game State
627397 Luck vs dscp 1334 2109 Sep 12 17:30 In progress View game history
630574 dscp vs fckallie 2109 2130 Sep 12 17:20 In progress View game history
627643 Marlone56 vs dscp 1169 2109 Sep 12 17:20 In progress View game history
627982 dscp vs ericfrelicot 2109 1801 Sep 12 17:10 In progress View game history
628054 fhbchess vs dscp 1595 2109 Sep 12 17:00 In progress View game history
669175 mikeviking vs dscp 1449 2109 Sep 12 16:50 In progress View game history
669178 Milou vs dscp 1665 2109 Sep 12 16:40 In progress View game history
669180 dscp vs mikeviking 2109 1449 Sep 12 16:40 In progress View game history
669181 dscp vs Milou 2109 1665 Sep 12 16:30 In progress View game history
669206 dscp vs fckallie 2109 2130 Sep 12 16:30 In progress View game history
669207 fckallie vs dscp 2130 2109 Sep 12 16:20 In progress View game history
675943 mikeviking vs dscp 1449 2109 Sep 12 16:20 In progress View game history
675950 dscp vs mikeviking 2109 1449 Sep 12 16:10 In progress View game history
630575 fckallie vs dscp 2130 2109 Sep 12 15:20 In progress View game history
644626 Capa vs dscp 1808 2109 Sep 12 13:20 In progress View game history
644633 dscp vs Capa 2109 1808 Sep 12 11:20 In progress View game history
644675 donpon2 vs dscp 1583 2109 Sep 12 07:24 In progress View game history
617737 Tequila vs dscp 2043 2109 Sep 12 06:41 In progress View game history
617740 dscp vs Tequila 2109 2043 Sep 12 06:31 In progress View game history

Im sorry i don't see the theme. Please be more sprecific.

Originally posted by marinakatomb
Im sorry i don't see the theme. Please be more sprecific.

there are exactly 10 minutes between each move.

the moves which are still in the opening book are instantaneous, so are moves where mate is in site.

for some reason it took 2 hours to analyse the moves against capa - i do not know why.

he has not always been playing like this, when you drew against dscp it was probably a combination of human and computer that you played against.

Hmm, i can't say im convinced. are you sure he doesn't play at work or something. Perhaps he thinks for seconds about a move but does something else for ten minutes between moves? If you look how many games he plays at once you'd have to wonder how practical using a computer is. Someone with 200 games simply can't use fritz for every one. It would be a complete chore to skip from game to game, waiting for the analysis, moving on to the next game, etc. I think he should have the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by marinakatomb
Hmm, i can't say im convinced. are you sure he doesn't play at work or something. Perhaps he thinks for seconds about a move but does something else for ten minutes between moves? If you look how many games he plays at once you'd ha ...[text shortened]... e next game, etc. I think he should have the benefit of the doubt.

the human dscp is probably at the park, thinking about going straight to the pub.
the human only checks up on the computer every few hours or maybe even days!!!

the dscp computer is at home ALONE (or at work alone for the weekend).

the computer does it ALL on it's own.

How does the computer get the moves? does it log onto RHP on it's own, check the pgn of all the games, analyse them and upload the moves all by it self?

Originally posted by marinakatomb
How does the computer get the moves? does it log onto RHP on it's own, check the pgn of all the games, analyse them and upload the moves all by it self?

the computer just navigates the pages the same as you and me.

Are you suggesting that he has writen a program that can navigate through RHP? One which does this, loads the moves into another program, then uploads the moves, all in ten minutes?

Originally posted by marinakatomb
Are you suggesting that he has writen a program that can navigate through RHP? One which does this, loads the moves into another program, then uploads the moves, all in ten minutes?

yes

and just to clarify my position yet again:
this is a valuable contribution to the rhp community,
noone has complained.
dscp plays good fast chess.
please do not ban dscp.
dscp has played hundreds of games and been a part of our chess scene.

I don't think you realize just how ridiculous that sounds. No offense, but to write such a program would take an immense amount of time and effort. If he had written such a program, why would he stop using it in our game? I would hazard an educated guess that fritz would not accept moves from another program as it has no functionality built into it to accept moves from another program.

Originally posted by marinakatomb
I don't think you realize just how ridiculous that sounds. No offense, but to write such a program would take an immense amount of time and effort. If he had written such a program, why would he stop using it in our game? I would haza ...[text shortened]... functionality built into it to accept moves from another program.

mmmm, a friend of mine was doing this on fics last century.

is it any more difficult this century?

(but i doubt it is him, he was taking time calculating opening moves)

Originally posted by marinakatomb
I don't think you realize just how ridiculous that sounds. No offense, but to write such a program would take an immense amount of time and effort. If he had written such a program, why would he stop using it in our game? I would hazard an educated guess that fritz would not accept moves from another program as it has no functionality built into it to accept moves from another program.

Firstly, I just want to make it clear I'm not accusing anyone of cheating, I'm just commenting on the technical aspects of what has been suggested above.

You are probably correct when you say that Fritz has no functionality to accept moves from another program. What I suggest is that it is possible to design a "front end" with these abilities that has an interface to a chess engine. That way one could use an engine such as Crafty in your own, custom-built program.

has anyone ever noticed a lack of messages from dscp when he/she/it moves?

- perhaps preferring to message later on?

if you look at dscp's move times you will notice that dscp last slept for just 4 hours about 28 hours ago - pretty good going!

(games in which dscp or dscp's opponents have moved since will not show, leaving these spaces, dscp probably played lots of moves during those 4 hours - russ will have the move logs.)

dscp is a bonus for rhp:

even Ironman31 has said good of dscp's games Game 617770 :
"One of my best attacking games in this site "
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?id=13254&page=5
august 30

a talented individual has worked hard and spent money to set up dscp,

we don't pay for it,
we get another top opponent,
our site gets paid for it!!!!!!
LET DSCP KEEP PLAYING!