06 Jan '08 09:07>
Why is game 4382634 not a draw?
Originally posted by ruimangoIf two players has the same rating then no rating points are changed.
A draw was offered to me and I accepted. In consequence I lost 9 ranking points to my opponent? Can anyone explain me this nonsense?
Originally posted by ruimangoThe rating is supposed to reflect a players true skill. Even if you have the wrong rating no, it will asymptotically near your true rating in a while. Som think of the rating as a objective measurement of your skill.
Thanks for the explanation, I understood and will not fall again in that same error. Nevertheless, my opinion is that it is a stupid rule because it's far too subjective, and more isn't clearly explained in the first place.
Originally posted by ruimangoIf you draw against someone you have a higher rating than, you lose rating points. What's stupid about that? Did you think that a draw meant that the game didn't count?
Thanks for the explanation, I understood and will not fall again in that same error. Nevertheless, my opinion is that it is a stupid rule because it's far too subjective, and more isn't clearly explained in the first place.
Originally posted by ruimangoNow you know, and it's not stupid. If you can't beat the player you are rated better than and the game is a draw, you will lose some points. Not as many as you would lose if they beat you.
Thanks for the explanation, I understood and will not fall again in that same error. Nevertheless, my opinion is that it is a stupid rule because it's far too subjective, and more isn't clearly explained in the first place.
Originally posted by ruimangoIf you drew with Anand in a tournament game, are you saying that you wouldn't expect to earn a few rating points?
it's subjective because the ratings don't reflect many circumstances of the players like for instance level of concentration that depend on many things... i might agree that even not perfect it's still a good system, but regarding the draw situation it's stupid because you aren't supposed to beat a under rated player just because he is under rated... imagin ...[text shortened]... standpoint. it's wins and defeats that represent an objective value in any competition.
Originally posted by ruimangoYou confuse two things I think.
it's subjective because the ratings don't reflect many circumstances of the players like for instance level of concentration that depend on many things... i might agree that even not perfect it's still a good system, but regarding the draw situation it's stupid because you aren't supposed to beat a under rated player just because he is under rated... imagin ...[text shortened]... standpoint. it's wins and defeats that represent an objective value in any competition.
Originally posted by ruimangoHow much rating points you win or lose as to do with probability, that's the math part. Probability is strongly connected with roulette too. Same same.
roulette?... don't be silly!!! i was comparing sports where humans matter, not games of chance of dices or machines. About that apple you talked you should perhaps compare it with your brain... or maybe not, because if you squeeze both, the apple will have more juice ;= just kidding, it's just to say that you can't compare different natures...