@divegeester
i first heard the concept about 1970, it was presented, "hell is the absence of God"
i cain't disprove it
The only kind of "Hell" I perceive as actually existing is where the word is used as a metaphor [of religious origin] for situations where there is relentless and deliberate egregious evil being visited upon each other human beings.
If "the presence of God" and "obedience to God's will" are in fact [at least to my way of thinking], wittingly or unwitting, simply kinds of metaphors for morally sound, orderly and mutually beneficial interactions between people [like the ones encouraged by the teachings attributed to Jesus], then I can see how one could believe that "Hell is where God isn't" describes despicable situations that are, regrettably, an ever-present dimension of the human condition.
As for there being some sort of "Hell" experienced after one dies, I see no credible reason to believe in such a thing.
Most Bible scholars agree that the phrase “outer darkness” refers to hell or, more properly, the lake of fire (Matthew 8:12; 13:42; 13:50; and 25:23).
The outer darkness of Jesus’ parable is called “blackest darkness” in Jude 1:13. Again, a place of judgment is the obvious meaning, since it is reserved for “godless men” (verse 4).
https://www.gotquestions.org/outer-darkness.html
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i do not know of any of these places
perhaps they are
perhaps they are not
@rookie54 saidNo, not a place of judgement but of punishment, the carrying out of the sentence that judgement calls for.
Most Bible scholars agree that the phrase “outer darkness” refers to hell or, more properly, the lake of fire (Matthew 8:12; 13:42; 13:50; and 25:23).
The outer darkness of Jesus’ parable is called “blackest darkness” in Jude 1:13. Again, a place of judgment is the obvious meaning, since it is reserved for “godless men” (verse 4).
https://www.gotquestions.org/outer-dar ...[text shortened]... html
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i do not know of any of these places
perhaps they are
perhaps they are not
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Do you have a scriptural link to the “outer darkness” reference?
you asked for a link
i know you did not ask me for the link,
but i went there as i was interested in what was to be found
as for evidence that "most biblical scholars" either agree or disagree i personally cannot provide it
the quote is from the link asked for and provided
links on the internet are as suspect as any other assertion by any other expert or layman, so i understand if you are skeptical as to the accuracy of the information
HA!!!
i am skeptical myself, and yet am willing to bring the suspect information to the fore
