My rating is 1800 (just so you know before reading).
Like I posted some time ago I am having trouble finding an opening against 1.d4 that suits me. After doing some research I have found that ..1.e6 as a response for black is very interesting.
By e6 as first move against 1.d4 black keeps is options wide open and can easily trick white into an opening he wasn´t going to play.
By playing e6 white has pretty much no idea what black is going to play. If white playes 2.c4 black can play the Dutch (2.f5), Nimzo-, or queens-indian (2.Nf6). If white playes 2.e4 black can transpose to the French (2.d5) or even more interesting the Sicilian Kan (2.c5).
These are only a few examples as there are many more openings that can come from this.
I would very much like to hear from you on this.
Thanks.
Originally posted by thbEven the Benoni and the symmetrical English remain possibilities. I've played 1... e6 in reply to 1.d4 in hundreds of games.
By playing e6 white has pretty much no idea what black is going to play. If white playes 2.c4 black can play the Dutch (2.f5), Nimzo-, or queens-indian (2.Nf6).
Originally posted by JusuhAre you allright, mate? I think it´s better to know the rating of the players that write in here. That way you can estmate their knowledge of the game and therefore you can base your replies on that.
right. and now we should take you seriously? blaah
You don´t explain the game in the same way to a 1200 player as you would to a 1800 player or a 2000 player compared to a 2700 player.
I really don´t care if you take me seriously or not. That is not the reaon for my telling you my rating.
And if you didn´t notice it this is a CHESS related forum so if you have nothing usful to say then don´t write at all.
Take care.
Originally posted by WulebgrYes, exactly. The Benoni can easily come up after d4 e6 c4 c5 d5 etc.
Even the Benoni and the symmetrical English remain possibilities. I've played 1... e6 in reply to 1.d4 in hundreds of games.
This is the beauty of ..1.e6. Black controls the opening in some way and white has to prepare for anything.
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Originally posted by thbwhat you seem to be saying is that you do not view e6 as a response to d4 ... it is just a delaying tactic leaving he choice until later.
My rating is 1800 (just so you know before reading).
Like I posted some time ago I am having trouble finding an opening against 1.d4 that suits me. After doing some research I have found that ..1.e6 as a response for black is very interesting.
By e6 as first move against 1.d4 black keeps is options wide open and can easily trick white into an opening he w ...[text shortened]... openings that can come from this.
I would very much like to hear from you on this.
Thanks.
a determined opponent will review your games and know your next responses.
i think you are better off confidently going whichever way you like - it does not matter whether it is sooner or later that you make the choice.
as for the move e6 ... i think a lot of white players will then go for e5 and head into the french ... if the french is not part of your preferred gameplan, then this may be a recurring nightmare ... or if this is what you like then you will get it whether they start with e4 or e5 - i pull a similar trick using 1 .. c6.
i hate having pawns on Q3 or K3, because i feel my bishop is stuck ... and my opponent will know that i will probably need to fianchetto ... i feel like i am losing choices ... and so i will stick with c6 ... it lets my bishops out .. and conserves my knights ... when i play my best my bishops steam out and my knights finish things off later on in a pawn setup suiting me.
Originally posted by flexmoreOn the contrary, I think that ..1. e6 is a great response to 1.d4 as it keeps the options open and you don´t give away what you are going to play in the first move.
what [b]you seem to be saying is that you do not view e6 as a response to d4 ... it is just a delaying tactic leaving he choice until later.
a determined opponent will review your games and know your next responses.
i think you are better off confidently going whichever way you like - it does not matter whether it is sooner or later that you make ...[text shortened]... best my bishops steam out and my knights finish things off later on in a pawn setup suiting me.[/b]
A determened opponent will always review my games and therefore it doesn´t matter what I play. If I always play the same opening my opponent will know it, nomatter what the opening is.
If white playes 2.e4 and I don´t want to go into the French I will simply play ..2.c5 and head into the Sicilian! I don´t have to go into the French.
After all, flexibility is one of the elements of strategic planning. For the same reason, white may open with 1.Nf3, which cuts out the Bird's Opening, but little else.
It is true that black often has difficulties with the light-squared bishop in the French, but white's difficulties often seem more severe. For many combinations of players, after 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 black is winning.
These flexible move orders often work to catch out in the cold those whose opening repertoire is too limited. Of course, in correspondence, there is no excuse--players have access to ECO and an opening database.
Originally posted by WulebgrI don´t understand what you mean by "...after 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 black is winning."
After all, flexibility is one of the elements of strategic planning. For the same reason, white may open with 1.Nf3, which cuts out the Bird's Opening, but little else.
It is true that black often has difficulties with the light-squared bishop in the French, but white's difficulties often seem more severe. For many combinations of players, after 1.d4 e6 ...[text shortened]... urse, in correspondence, there is no excuse--players have access to ECO and an opening database.
How is black winning after two moves?
Originally posted by thbSorry to be too oblique. I was being facetious, while at the same time attempting to reflect the tremendous irrational fear of the French Defense that many players reveal.
I don´t understand what you mean by "...after 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 black is winning."
How is black winning after two moves?
Of course, white still has the initiative after the first two moves. But the French Defense is solid, and is a feared weapon in hands of certain players.
Originally posted by thbIs that 1800 USCF? ELO? Club? ICC? You haven't said what country
My rating is 1800 (just so you know before reading).
Like I posted some time ago I am having trouble finding an opening against 1.d4 that suits me. After doing some research I have found that ..1.e6 as a response for black is very interesting.
By e6 as first move against 1.d4 black keeps is options wide open and can easily trick white into an opening he w ...[text shortened]... openings that can come from this.
I would very much like to hear from you on this.
Thanks.
you are from. Also the point about looking at your games to know
in advance what your response would be is bogus due to the fact
you have played no games yet! BTW welcome to RHP. Don.
Originally posted by thbWhat if 1. d4 e6 2. e4 c5 3. d5? Then it's not a Sicilian. White avoids letting you trade your c-Pawn for his d-Pawn.
On the contrary, I think that ..1. e6 is a great response to 1.d4 as it keeps the options open and you don´t give away what you are going to play in the first move.
A determened opponent will always review my games and therefore it doesn´t matter what I play. If I always play the same opening my opponent will know it, nomatter what the opening is.
If whit ...[text shortened]... rench I will simply play ..2.c5 and head into the Sicilian! I don´t have to go into the French.
Originally posted by zakkwylderWell, I don´t know how funny it is. The simple explanation is that I don´t play chess here but I like this forum very much and often the discussions are very good.
Funny, your profile says differently. maybe you might play e6 as your first move in your first game to prove this point.
Do I have to play chess here to be allowed to post discussions?
Originally posted by sonhouseI am from Iceland.
Is that 1800 USCF? ELO? Club? ICC? You haven't said what country
you are from. Also the point about looking at your games to know
in advance what your response would be is bogus due to the fact
you have played no games yet! BTW welcome to RHP. Don.
My national rating is 1800.
My FIDE international ELO rating is about 2000.
My ICC standard rating is about 2000.
"Also the point about looking at your games to know
in advance what your response would be is bogus due to the fact
you have played no games yet! "
What do you mean? I didn´t make any point on me having any games here but you could just ask me about my response instead of having some attitude towards my post. But thanks anyway.