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1. Nf3 Nc6 2. b4

1. Nf3 Nc6 2. b4

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1. Nf3 Nc6 2. b4 is this good ive looked into it and if the blakc night takes b4 it looks like white has some advantage i looked into some varriations and i think its pretty good

any thoughts?

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Show us a few of those variations, please.

Apart from that, 1. ... Nc6 isn't on the top of my choices list to answer 1.Nf3 either.

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yeah i know but there is 1. Nf3 d4 2. c5 dxc4 3. e4 Be6 4. Ng5 etc.

and 1. Nf3 e6 2. d4 d5 3. c4

there are more if you want

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You may want to checkthe first one you gave there.

But you didn't answer the question: what are the 'good lines for white' after 1.Nf3 Nc6? 2.b4 Nxb4 ?

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I dunno, but the Queens Knight Attack is 1. Nc3 ..... 2. b4
Although, this line of questioning makes u wonder if there is a game inprogress?

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ive been studying 1. Nf3 its very good in my opinion i also like the scillian

i dont realy mind which variation im studying them all?

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
You may want to checkthe first one you gave there.

But you didn't answer the question: what are the 'good lines for white' after 1.Nf3 Nc6 2.b4 Nxb4 ?
1.Nf3 Nc6 2.b4 Nxb4 3.c3 Nc6 4.e4 e5 5.d4

white controlls the center for one pawn i think its good...

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Originally posted by moon 111
1.Nf3 Nc6 2.b4 Nxb4 3.c3 Nc6 4.e4 e5 5.d4

white controlls the center for one pawn i think its good...
5. ... exd 6.cxd d5. Where is white's control? I see the pawn down, though.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
5. ... exd 6.cxd d5. Where is white's control? I see the pawn down, though.
6. ... 7.Bb5

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Originally posted by moon 111
6. ... 7.Bb5
7. ... dxe4 8.Ne5 Bd7
a) 9.Bxc6 Bxc6 10.Nxc6 bxc6 and there is nearly bo compensation for the pawn
b) 9.Nxd7 Qxd7 10.d5 Rd8 and now if 11.Nc3 then 11. ... a6 12.dxc6 (12.Ba4 then b5) Qxd1+ 13.Nxd1 axb5 14.cxb7 and black is a lot better

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
7. ... dxe4 8.Ne5 Bd7
a) 9.Bxc6 Bxc6 10.Nxc6 bxc6 and there is nearly bo compensation for the pawn
b) 9.Nxd7 Qxd7 10.d5 Rd8 and now if 11.Nc3 then 11. ... a6 12.dxc6 (12.Ba4 then b5) Qxd1+ 13.Nxd1 axb5 14.cxb7 and black is a lot better
how about 7. ... dxe4 8.Bxc6 bxc6 9.Qe2

and they can pretty easily attack that pawn

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Originally posted by moon 111
how about 7. ... dxe4 8.Bxc6 bxc6 9.Qe2

and they can pretty easily attack that pawn
Black can easily cover, for instance 9. ... Nf6 or 9. ... f5 or 9. ... Bf5. Keep in mind that white is now 2 pawns behind for only a minor (if any) lead in development.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
You may want to checkthe first one you gave there.

But you didn't answer the question: what are the 'good lines for white' after 1.Nf3 Nc6? 2.b4 Nxb4 ?
I play 1.Nf3 all the time and have found 1..Nc3 to ba quite common, especially among lower graded players. It is definately worth our friend here developing a line for this move.

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Originally posted by moon 111
1. Nf3 Nc6 2. b4 is this good ive looked into it and if the blakc night takes b4 it looks like white has some advantage i looked into some varriations and i think its pretty good

any thoughts?
What do i think of 2.b4, well in all honesty i think why? There is no need to make this move in my opinion.

IMO, 1.Nf3 is great because it is trans-positional. You are not committing to any particular opening, as the kings knight invariably to goes to f3 in most openings. The only thing you are denying yourself is the possibility of playing a Kings gambit, or bird as the f-pawn is blocked.

I have developed a good system of playing the Queens Gambit from an odd move order, for example...

1.Nf3 ..d5
2.d4 ..Nf6
3.c4

or in response to Nc3

1.Nf3 ..Nc6
2.d4 ..d5
3.c4

This last variation is very strong for white as black has blocked his c-pawn with his knight and consequently cannot use it in defense of d5. I'd suggest you have a look into the Queens gambit if you want to play a gambit. It is very solid and provides a definite advantage if played correctly. 2.b4 allows black to make a free move as no threat is made. I believe white is obliged to call the shots, if you allow black to develop at will you're not playing your side correctly. 😉

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