Hi,
I had fritz analyze a drawn game and it went for exchanging my queen for 3 pieces (a rook, knight and bishop) when the opportunity arose. I suppose i missed that as psychologically i feared playing against the queen with minor pieces. My question is, have you played for this exchange in your games and how have you fared?
Originally posted by martinbeaverAfter an awful start in a game I'm playing against Smuuuv I sacraficed a bishop & a rook to get his queen (the full exchange was bishop & 2 rooks for queen & rook, but the 2 rooks at the end were an optional extra.
Hi,
I had fritz analyze a drawn game and it went for exchanging my queen for 3 pieces (a rook, knight and bishop) when the opportunity arose. I suppose i missed that as psychologically i feared playing against the queen with minor pie ...[text shortened]... you played for this exchange in your games and how have you fared?
http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=244124
As you can see from the game it is still a close call, but mainly due to the 2 passed pawns he had from before the exchanges due to my bad start - I think that without these I would have a clear advantage. If however he had gained 1 more piece in the exchange for his queen I feel that, even without the pawns, he would be winning. In short I would recommend swapping queen for 3 pieces, especially if one were a rook. The versatility of the queen is overcome by the fact that she can't take any protected piece because if she is lost it's all over.
I have also played games (which I can't find right now) where it has been 2 rooks against queen. 2 rooks win most times, so your queen for 2 rooks (let alone 2 rooks + bishop or knight) is a winner (IMHO)
I think this is my first post to "Chess", so sorry if its wrong or simple.
PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT DIRECTLY ON MY GAME AGAINST SMUUUV, AS IT IS STILL GOING ON!
Jon
A good rule of thumb is, 3 minor pieces (bishops/knights) are better than the queen if they have effective outposts. On an open board without any stability the queen is often better.
I had a game against DigitGus where I had to give my queen up for some rook, knight and a couple of pawns. Unfortunately I got timed out :-( but it was kind of interesting whilst it was still going. (I think I was winning).
http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=225809
Any analysis on this is welcome.
John.
Originally posted by ReelEmInReidAs my level is lower than yours, I don't have much to say that's not boring for you, but I must say that you have played this Evans just superb, I try to play it some times, but never really get to it! And for the rest, to bad you got timed-out...🙂
A good rule of thumb is, 3 minor pieces (bishops/knights) are better than the queen if they have effective outposts. On an open board without any stability the queen is often better.
I had a game against DigitGus where I had to give my queen up for some rook, knight and a couple of pawns. Unfortunately I got timed out :-( but it was kind of interesti ...[text shortened]... n.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=225809
Any analysis on this is welcome.
John.
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Originally posted by SirLoseALotMaybe you should so that history won't repeat itself.Just a friendly thought.
In 14 years of chess,I seldom saw such an opportunity .How often I missed one,I,of course,don't know😕
If there are no traps,I would never hesitate to do so.
The few times I have done it,I won the game. 😏
ps: I must have lost a few too,but wish not to remember those 😉
😵
Without a position to offet a basic count score, then I'd do the swap. I usually count pawn = 1; (2 if 6th rank; 3 if 7th rank); knight or bish = 3; rook = 5; queen = 9.
So rook + knight + bishop = 11 c.f. queen 9 => win.
2 knights + bishop = 9 c.f. queen 9 would be a totally 'case by case' choice.
Are these standard points by the way? No idea who ever tought me them: must have been when i were but a wee lad.
Originally posted by ToeThey tought you well 😀
Without a position to offet a basic count score, then I'd do the swap. I usually count pawn = 1; (2 if 6th rank; 3 if 7th rank); knight or bish = 3; rook = 5; queen = 9.
So rook + knight + bishop = 11 c.f. queen 9 => win.
2 knights + bishop = 9 c.f. queen 9 would be a totally 'case by case' choice.
Are these standard points by the way? No idea who ever tought me them: must have been when i were but a wee lad.
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Originally posted by martinbeaverCurrently I have a game with markcardis #242046 in which I have the three pieces. I am confident in this position
Hi,
I had fritz analyze a drawn game and it went for exchanging my queen for 3 pieces (a rook, knight and bishop) when the opportunity arose. I suppose i missed that as psychologically i feared playing against the queen with minor pieces. My question is, have you played for this exchange in your games and how have you fared?