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  1. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    14 May '11 20:59 / 1 edit
  2. 14 May '11 21:12 / 2 edits
    Horrible problem. I assume it's your own composition?

    Took me all of one second to solve. 1. Rxh7 Kxh7 2. Rh1+ Kg8 3. Rh8#

    Or 1. ... Nxg6 2. Qxg6 blah blah blah
  3. Subscriber Ragwort
    Ex Duris Gloria
    14 May '11 21:56
    I thought 1. Ne7+ looked quite good too....
  4. 14 May '11 22:30
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Horrible problem. I assume it's your own composition?

    Took me all of one second to solve. 1. Rxh7 Kxh7 2. Rh1+ Kg8 3. Rh8#

    Or 1. ... Nxg6 2. Qxg6 blah blah blah
    Congratulations; a year's supply of slimfast on its way to you. LOL
  5. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    15 May '11 00:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Horrible problem. I assume it's your own composition?

    Took me all of one second to solve. 1. Rxh7 Kxh7 2. Rh1+ Kg8 3. Rh8#

    Or 1. ... Nxg6 2. Qxg6 blah blah blah
    Not solved.

    Better for black is 1... Nxg6.



    - Blah blah?
  6. 15 May '11 04:29
    this is a 1300 level problem
  7. 15 May '11 05:09
    I thought I had it when I saw 1.Ne7+ Bxe7 2. Bxh7+ Kh8 3. Nf7+ Nxf7 followed by 4.Bg6+ Kg8 and Bxf7mate. but then i saw 4...Nh6 blocking the king
  8. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    15 May '11 06:35
    Originally posted by NorrisB
    this is a 1300 level problem
    Still no accurate solution.
  9. 15 May '11 07:09
    1.Rxh7 and if Nxg6 then 2.Qxg6 with the threat 3.Rxg7+ Bxg7 4.Qh7#. If 2. ... anything else, then 3.Rh8+ Kxh8 4.Rh1+ and 5.Qh7# All very straightforward. The knight on d6 covering square f7 makes it very easy. It is much more interesting to finish the game without that knight.
  10. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    15 May '11 07:27
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    1.Rxh7 and if Nxg6 then 2.Qxg6 with the threat 3.Rxg7+ Bxg7 4.Qh7#. If 2. ... anything else, then 3.Rh8+ Kxh8 4.Rh1+ and 5.Qh7# All very straightforward. The knight on d6 covering square f7 makes it very easy. It is much more interesting to finish the game without that knight.
    Good assessment of the threats.

    There is only 1 accurate #5 here. The mate in 5 is dependent on finding blacks accurate delaying responses; more-so than finding white's threats.

    PM'd issue.

    Unsolved.
  11. 15 May '11 07:33 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    Good assessment of the threats.

    There is only 1 accurate #5 here. The mate in 5 is dependent on finding blacks accurate delaying responses; more-so than finding white's threats.

    PM'd issue.

    Unsolved.
    see pm answer.
    Solved (with my original post).

    Edit. try to solve it without the knight on d6.
  12. Subscriber Ragwort
    Ex Duris Gloria
    15 May '11 07:39
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    [fen]r3Qrk1/pp1b2pp/2qNpbN1/3pn1P1/1nP3P1/3B4/PP1BKP2/R6R w - - 7 1 [/fen]
    On reflection it doesn't look as if Ne7+ works. However Fat Lady's blah blah is not so obvious...



    Fair enough



    So ...

  13. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    15 May '11 07:42 / 7 edits
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    see pm answer.
    Solved (with my original post).

    Edit. try to solve it without the knight on d6.
    Not quite. But your close.

    (ragwort...good workup...getting there..)


    ...Subtracting the Knight on d6 makes for #8 but has multiple possible answers due to the h7 discovered check after the capture. This puzzle has only 1 accurate mate in 5.
    #8 (minus d6 knight) as:

    -GIN
  14. 15 May '11 08:03
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    Not quite. But your close.

    (ragwort...good workup...getting there..)


    ...Subtracting the Knight on d6 makes for #8 but has multiple possible answers due to the h7 discovered check after the capture. This puzzle has only 1 accurate mate in 5.

    -GIN
    Look, the 2. ... Nxd3 was answered with 'If 2. ... anything else, then 3.Rh8+ Kxh8 4.Rh1+ and 5.Qh7#'. What is missing? Do you need a list of all black's moves that will be answered by one of the two white replies? It's a long list of irrelevant options with always the same two possible answers.

    The 'multiple possible answers' in the other puzzle (without knight) are only due to the fact that the bishop can retreat to a number of squares (except g6), but the continuation is exactly the same in each case. I didn't 'compose' this, I only said that it is slightly more interesting than the original puzzle, where the solution is straightforward and where the 'longest' mate follows after a rather irrelevant prolongation (Bxd3, not doing anything against the threats).
  15. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    15 May '11 08:12 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    Look, the 2. ... Nxd3 was answered with 'If 2. ... anything else, then 3.Rh8+ Kxh8 4.Rh1+ and 5.Qh7#'. What is missing? Do you need a list of all black's moves that will be answered by one of the two white replies? It's a long list of irrelevant options with always the same two possible answers.

    The 'multiple possible answers' in the other puzzle (with fter a rather irrelevant prolongation (Bxd3, not doing anything against the threats).
    Because that wouldn't be accurate. If Qxd6 (thats "anything else" white can mate faster than Rh1. Therefore not applying to #5. Proper play by black yields only 1 result in which #5 occurs.
    You did not say
    Nxd3
    at all in your post. My PM contained that hint.

    Puzzle is pretty much beat now though due to you posting in the thread (with my hint) rather than in PM. Your original post did not meet the criteria.