One of the lads posted on the blog about taking the b7 pawn in the
Weadley - LightWarrrior game.
As I said I don't like to enter a swamp when I give analysis.
"If it's long then it's wrong."
But I'm all for people diving in and pulling and poking about.
It's your games I'm using. Please do. I encourage it.
If I cock up I'll repair the note. (and claim it was a deliberate error to
see who was paying attention.) 🙂
If White slips in 16.cxb7+ instead of 16.Nxe2 and Black takes the pawn
then going for the Blackburne mate would also fail.
The fact White did not play cxb7+ still gives him a lost game but
no cute ending.
Here again is the full game without my Blog notes. Good game.
Thanks for the information about the book, I had no idea such a thing existed. It is rare and expensive second-hand. There is an on-line copy here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/67044QPN/Soviet_Union_vs_World.html
The book was put out by Informator -- I wonder have they any plans to reprint it?
Originally posted by pdunneoh thanks... is this actually legal? i guess because it is an old book, the copyrights are not valid anymore, but do you know?
Thanks for the information about the book, I had no idea such a thing existed. It is rare and expensive second-hand. There is an on-line copy here:
http://www.4shared.com/file/67044QPN/Soviet_Union_vs_World.html
The book was put out by Informator -- I wonder have they any plans to reprint it?
Originally posted by tharkeshIt's copyright Informator, who are still around. 1970 is only 41 years ago, and I think copyright expiration time is 70 years after publication. So, yes, my guess is scanning and uploading it would be a violation of copyright. So far as I know, downloading such a copy is not a copyright violation, although obtaining it via bittorrent would be, since then you are helping distribute the file yourself.
oh thanks... is this actually legal? i guess because it is an old book, the copyrights are not valid anymore, but do you know?
Hi chessicle
That does it, yes.
If White is in spoilsport mode he play the killjoy 1.Nb4 and if Black
goes for the Blackburne mate White can play Nxd6+ after Qxh4.
But that is really splitting hairs. So I'd say yes. White has to play Nxe2
and The Blackburne Mate is on. Good.
Throwing in 16.cxb7+ does not really destroy the Blackburne mating idea.
(There is no perpetual after Nb5 then Nxa7+ Saving you the time there.
It was something I looked at.)
The blog has already had just under 200 views. A wee bit too late
for an update. I'll drop the repair into the next blog.
As a reward you get to choose the next mating Pattern.
Anything you like (even a rare one) I'll find a few on RHP.
Cheers.
Reminds me of all the analysis I saw years ago when people were trying
to bust one of Anderssen 's games. The Evergreen.
Good (reasonable) Computer programs had just become available and more
and more people were getting them (Fritz 2 era).
All kinds of moves were being suggested to make the win more mundane
and people were finding moves to mate the way Anderseen intended.
I think the Evergreen still passed the test, although it depended on how
far you took back the moves. You have save the RHP Blackburne Mate.
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I've wondered too about those end of fen things.
Winboard drags them across as does Chessbase. but they seem to work without them.
Random position created in Winboard.
The fen is 8/8/2P5/5p2/8/3n2r1/8/8 w - - 0 1
remove the 'w--01'
8/8/2P5/5p2/8/3n2r1/8/8
and it still works.
I think the 'w' means White to move (what else can it be?)
However:
and with no White piece it still shows.
8/8/8/5p2/8/3n2r1/8/8 w - - 0 1
Think it's best not to ask and leave it alone. It works.
Originally posted by greenpawn34How about the Hook Mate?
Hi chessicle
As a reward you get to choose the next mating Pattern.
Anything you like (even a rare one) I'll find a few on RHP.
Cheers.
There's a whole Wikipedia article about mating patterns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern). Less amusing than the blog, though.
Also, may I propose possible swift cataclysmic retribution for trying to distract Black from mating, Blackburne or otherwise:
I am assuming that Nxa7+ leads nowhere, as you assert.
The Hook Mate it is.
(see if I can come up with a better name.)
Blackburne would have scoffed at Bxg3.
That is no way to get into the history books. 🙂
Just shows you how lucky I was and that the game went the way it did.
There were not too many examples. A lot less than what I expected.
Of course when you have 2 Bishops, a Knight and Queen hovering near
a King there are many more ways to mate and in some cases the more
straight forward mates were chosen.
I guess a mate is mate no matter how it happens.