18 Mar 06
Originally posted by Sicilian SmaugBlackmar-Diemer Gambit
What is the BDG?
Typical way to reach it is
1.d4 d5
2.e4 dxe4
3.Nc3 Nf6
4.f3 exf3
In the Caro-Kann,
1.e4 c6
2.d4 d5
3.Nc3 dxe4
4.f3 exf3
The problem is that the pawns on e6 and c6 are the main rememdy to this gambit and many people adopt a Caro-Kann setup against the Blackmar-Diemer.
Some other details - I play the Evans Gambit, Morra Gambit, Two Knights Defence and anything classical and risky really.
Against 1.d4 I'll play a Queen's Gambit Accepted or the King's Indian Defence depending on my mood and what result I plan on playing for.
18 Mar 06
Originally posted by Positional PlayerI found two under B15 of the ECO classification system:
Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
Typical way to reach it is
1.d4 d5
2.e4 dxe4
3.Nc3 Nf6
4.f3 exf3
In the Caro-Kann,
1.e4 c6
2.d4 d5
3.Nc3 dxe4
4.f3 exf3
The problem is that the pawns on e6 and c6 are the main rememdy to this gambit and many people adopt a Caro-Kann setup against the Blackmar-Diemer.
Some other details - I play the Evan ...[text shortened]... pted or the King's Indian Defence depending on my mood and what result I plan on playing for.
1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 dxe4 4 f3 - Rasa-Studier Gambit
1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 dxe4 4 Nxe4 Nf6 5 Bd3 - Alekhine Gambit
18 Mar 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderThanks that's quite helpful actually. The only problem with the first one is it is more than likely to lead to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit which is dashed against the rocks of the pawns on c6 and e6. 🙁
I found two under B15 of the ECO classification system:
1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 dxe4 4 f3 - Rasa-Studier Gambit
1 e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 dxe4 4 Nxe4 Nf6 5 Bd3 - Alekhine Gambit
The second one does look promising though. I remember looking at it once in very little detail. I like the idea of tempting out the Black queen to be attacked. I'll do a bit of research.
Cheers!
18 Mar 06
Originally posted by Positional PlayerSorry about that; I didn't look at your original post carefully enough. The Rasa-Studier sequence was already given by you, though under the BDG title (though ECO does not classify it as such).
Thanks that's quite helpful actually. The only problem with the first one is it is more than likely to lead to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit which is dashed against the rocks of the pawns on c6 and e6. 🙁
The second one does look promising though. I remember looking at it once in very little detail. I like the idea of tempting out the Black queen to be attacked. I'll do a bit of research.
Cheers!
18 Mar 06
Originally posted by Positional PlayerI found 22 games on the Chessbase database with the suggested sequence of moves. If Black plays 4 .... Nf6 White scores 2W, 11L, 2D; if Black plays 4 ...... Bf5, White wins 1 and loses 6. Obviously, it has not scored very well, but for novelty value it might be worth a shot in OTB. If I know my Caro players, most won't take the pawn.
Really? I haven't heard of it, and the move 3.Nf3 is not in my database at all!
How does the main line go?
18 Mar 06
Originally posted by no1marauderI'll give it a fling in some blitz games and see how they go.
I found 22 games on the Chessbase database with the suggested sequence of moves. If Black plays 4 .... Nf6 White scores 2W, 11L, 2D; if Black plays 4 ...... Bf5, White wins 1 and loses 6. Obviously, it has not scored very well, but for novelty value it might be worth a shot in OTB. If I know my Caro players, most won't take the pawn.
18 Mar 06
I've faced it 5 times as Black,with a score of +3-1=1. I don't think it's quite sound for White,but it is a refreshing change of pace from worn-out trail horses like the Advance 3.e5(total rubbish for White),the Exchange or Panov-Botvinnik,and the various 3.Nc3 lines. I'm a firm believer in Tartakover's dictum:"If it's dubious,it's playable".