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    18 Nov '06 00:481 edit
    This position was recently reached in a game between two players rated over 2000 on this site:


    White to move

    The question is - what happened next?
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    18 Nov '06 00:53
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    This position was recently reached in a game between two players rated over 2000 on this site:

    [fen]r4r1k/1p1b4/1q2ppQ1/p1b1RpB1/3p4/P7/1P3PPP/R5K1[/fen]
    White to move

    The question is - what happened next?
    Should I assume that Bxf6+ is wrong?
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    18 Nov '06 00:55
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    Should I assume that Bxf6+ is wrong?
    I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong, but how does White continue after Rxf6?
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    18 Nov '06 00:582 edits
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong, but how does White continue after Rxf6?
    Wait, actually, Bh6, Rg8, Qxf6+ Kh7....stuck again.
  5. Standard memberGalaxyShield
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    18 Nov '06 01:011 edit
    Qh5+? Followed by either Kg8 Bh6 and black is trapped, or Kg7 Bg6+ Kh7(8) Bxf8+ which gains a decent lead.
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    18 Nov '06 01:09
    Originally posted by GalaxyShield
    Qh5+? Followed by either Kg8 Bh6 and black is trapped, or Kg7 Bg6+ Kh7(8) Bxf8+ which gains a decent lead.
    What about 1.Qh5+ Kg8 2.Bh6 Be8. Unfortunately White doesn't have many safe checking squares on the g-file.
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    i cannot find anything better than perpetual with a draw. i dont play at the expert level, so im probably missing something
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    18 Nov '06 08:08
    I thought Rd1 might be worth a shot, threatening Rd3. If Black spots it and plays, say, Qb3 then White can bail out with the draw.

    Anyway, this is how the game went: Game 2740252 (remember White was rated over 2000 at the time of this game).
  9. Standard memberMarinkatomb
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    18 Nov '06 08:411 edit
    Bh6

    Edit: In fact, 20.Bh6 would have been hard to meet...
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    18 Nov '06 11:221 edit
    Originally posted by likeforest
    i cannot find anything better than perpetual with a draw. i dont play at the expert level, so im probably missing something
    Rae1 looks good as its sets a trap (1.Rae1 fxg5 2. R1e4 g4 3.Rxg4 winning) There is no point for white to take perpetual without trying to win.
  11. Standard memberwormwood
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    18 Nov '06 15:23
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    I thought Rd1 might be worth a shot, threatening Rd3. If Black spots it and plays, say, Qb3 then White can bail out with the draw.

    Anyway, this is how the game went: Game 2740252 (remember White was rated over 2000 at the time of this game).
    ah, merchantparkpro. well, that's not the only game where he's been gifted a win. I suppose people don't want to play against him, and just rather resign even when they're winning.
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  13. Standard memberMathurine
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    18 Nov '06 16:06
    Given that white is a bishop and a pawn down at this juncture, wouldn't it be better to go for:

    Qh6+ ...Kg8
    Qg6+ ...Kh8


    &c.,&c.. and draw by perpetual+ ?

    I fail to see a clever way for white to win here
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    18 Nov '06 16:09
    Originally posted by Mathurine
    Given that white is a bishop and a pawn down at this juncture, wouldn't it be better to go for:

    Qh6+ ...Kg8
    Qg6+ ...Kh8


    &c.,&c.. and draw by perpetual+ ?

    I fail to see a clever way for white to win here
    read my previous post.
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    18 Nov '06 16:20
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    read my previous post.
    yea, I think Rae1 is the way to go, but first snatch that exchange+pawn with Bxf6+...
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