Hi everyone, last night I finished this fine specimen of a game on gameknot that was bursting with tactics, your comments would be greatly appreciated to see if there were any flaws in the way I played, or different lines that may have occured.
[Event "one sitting game"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2008.08.01"]
[Round "-"]
[White "bobbob78"]
[Black "cycloneconway125"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "1576"]
[BlackElo "1450"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bc4 c6 5. dxc6 Nxc6 6. Nf3 e5 7. O-O Bc5 8. Re1 Qe7 9. d4 Bxd4 10. Nxd4 Nxd4 11. f4 Ne6 12. Rxe5 Qb4 13. Qf1 O-O 14. c3 Qb6+ 15. Kh1 Ng4 16. Re2 Rac8 17. Bb3 Bb5 18. c4 Bxc4 19. Bxc4 Rxc4 20. Nc3 Nd4 21. Be3 Nxe3 22. Rxe3 Nc2 23. Qxc4 Qxe3 24. Nd5 Qe6 25. Rc1 Rd8 26. Rxc2 Qe1+ 27. Qf1 Qxf1# 0-1
PS if anyone knows how to slot this into a Pgn viewer it would be a great help i still dont have a clue how to do it!
Originally posted by HurricaneConway125Agreed re pgn viewer, I personally ignore all games that are listed as per yours, too much hassle
Hi everyone, last night I finished this fine specimen of a game on gameknot that was bursting with tactics, your comments would be greatly appreciated to see if there were any flaws in the way I played, or different lines that may have occured.
[Event "one sitting game"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2008.08.01"]
[Round "-"]
[White "bo ...[text shortened]... o a Pgn viewer it would be a great help i still dont have a clue how to do it!
Originally posted by SmiffyExcellent thanks a lot, I can see how its done now as well any thoughts on the game itself?
[pgn]1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bc4 c6 5. dxc6 Nxc6 6. Nf3 e5 7. O-O Bc5 8. Re1 Qe7 9. d4 Bxd4 10. Nxd4 Nxd4 11. f4 Ne6 12. Rxe5 Qb4 13. Qf1 O-O 14. c3 Qb6+ 15. Kh1 Ng4 16. Re2 Rac8 17. Bb3 Bb5 18. c4 Bxc4 19. Bxc4 Rxc4 20. Nc3 Nd4 21. Be3 Nxe3 22. Rxe3 Nc2 23. Qxc4 Qxe3 24. Nd5 Qe6 25. Rc1 Rd8 26. Rxc2 Qe1+ 27. Qf1 Qxf1# 0-1 [/pgn]
Hope this is ok for you.
Originally posted by HurricaneConway125Where are the tactics? 😕
Hi everyone, last night I finished this fine specimen of a game on gameknot that was bursting with tactics, your comments would be greatly appreciated to see if there were any flaws in the way I played, or different lines that may have occured.
[Event "one sitting game"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2008.08.01"]
[Round "-"]
[White "bo ...[text shortened]... o a Pgn viewer it would be a great help i still dont have a clue how to do it!
- Joined
- 07 Jan 08
- Moves
- 34575
3. Bb5?? Complete loss of initiative. White gives initiative to black and never regains it.
5. White moves 1 pawn 3 times and really has nothing to show for it. Loses control of the center and never regains it.
8. Re1? Here was a chance to try to do some developing, but no - we move the rook. By this time black is so far ahead in development that the rook control of an open file is a non-threat.
20. Hooray! White FINALLY moves a queenside piece. At this point white is hapless against black, who has all his pieces in action. It's just a matter of time.
White blundered away the game later on but really handed black the initiative, and the game, quite early in the opening.
Originally posted by HurricaneConway1253.Bb5 is a horrible move(best move in my opinion is d4), then after Be7 he moves a piece twice.And after move six black has three pieces developed and white only two with black to move.
where exactly? I thought i was giving him quite an advantadge, although that opening does give some good play for black
Originally posted by BadwaterYeah white did completely waste the tempo he should always have in the opening, but were there any bad moves that i as black played? or could have played better?
3. Bb5?? Complete loss of initiative. White gives initiative to black and never regains it.
5. White moves 1 pawn 3 times and really has nothing to show for it. Loses control of the center and never regains it.
8. Re1? Here was a chance to try to do some developing, but no - we move the rook. By this time black is so far ahead in development that the ...[text shortened]... game later on but really handed black the initiative, and the game, quite early in the opening.
- Joined
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Originally posted by HurricaneConway125You completely took over the game and won it relatively quickly, what more could you ask for? 😛
Yeah white did completely waste the tempo he should always have in the opening, but were there any bad moves that i as black played? or could have played better?
Honestly, I wouldn't invest too much into analyzing a game that the opponent practically handed to you. I'd analyze a stronger game from a stronger opponent. The reason is that you're not likely to run into such a massive opening blunder as you did on this game, so why not analyze a more common opening in a tighter game?
Black's opening advantage seems to have evaporated rather quickly. Why didn't White go for 13.Bxe6? He still has his extra pawn and is catching up in development. 13...fxe6 looks forced [threat of 14.f5]. The isolated e-pawn is a nice weakness for White to play against.
I think Black should have gone for 7...Bg4. That's a standard, annoying move that Black usually plays in the Icelandic gambit. Reserve the dark Bishop depending on what White does [for example, if he tries to pin the e-pawn, Be7 may be a good way to quickly unpin and castle].
At the end, White would have been fine just playing 25.Qxc2, trading the Knights. The pronouncements of White's demise straight out of the opening are greatly exaggerated. Black played some aggressive-looking moves, but they led to no real advantage once the smoke cleared.