1. Standard memberhuckleberryhound
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    24 Sep '06 20:58
    Game 2473187

    I'm no chess brain, so someone help me out please. . .where did i screw up ?
  2. Standard memberAmaurote
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    24 Sep '06 21:03
    Move 18 is an en prise blunder, but in the moves running up to it you created a backward pawn on e6 defended by a minor piece which was bound to be repelled at some point.
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    24 Sep '06 21:041 edit
    maybe 18...Nf4??

    after closer look I am sure that game was a joke.
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    24 Sep '06 21:05
    Originally posted by huckleberryhound
    Game 2473187

    I'm no chess brain, so someone help me out please. . .where did i screw up ?
    19.c6?? trapping your bishop.
  5. Standard memberAmaurote
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    24 Sep '06 21:091 edit
    18 ...Rae8 would probably have led to equality for the time being. c6 doesn't look so bad when you see the combination which follows.
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    24 Sep '06 21:13
    Besides blundering the two pieces, which basically is whole thing with this game, your opening play leaves something to be desired also. ..Nc6, blocking your c-pawn, doesn't seem like a good idea, and ..Bb4, which should have been immediately met by c3, just gives White c3 for free. Also, playing f5, leaving the e6 pawn backward on an open file, is a problem, especially after you play ..b6 and ..b7, removing the only defender of that bad pawn. But obviously moving your knight to an unprotected square and trapping your bishop are the two major problems with this game.
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    24 Sep '06 21:161 edit
    Originally posted by Amaurote
    18 ...Rae8 would probably have led to equality for the time being. c6 doesn't look so bad when you see the combination which follows.
    but instead of taking the bishop his opponent could have played Rf2.
  8. Standard memberRed Night
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    24 Sep '06 21:28
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    maybe 18...Nf4??

    after closer look I am sure that game was a joke.
    No, I think it was a real game.

    I agree with everything that people have said. Nc6 was weak. Hanging pieces all over the place.

    What really struck me is that we arrive at move 30, after a series of dropped pieces and bad sacrifices with, amazingly, material equality.

    At that point you played Qxb2 losing the game. Either Rd8 or,even better Rh8, left you with a lead in the game.
  9. Standard memberAmaurote
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    24 Sep '06 21:36
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    but instead of taking the bishop his opponent could have played Rf2.
    Yes, it's bad, but it's not where he lost the game - even there you're only looking at a point difference, and the imbalance plus the possibilities of that f-file don't write off Black's chances entirely.

    20 Rf2 Bxf3
    21 Rxf3 Qxd4+
    22 Qf2
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    24 Sep '06 21:38
    Originally posted by Amaurote
    Yes, it's bad, but it's not where he lost the game - even there you're only looking at a point difference, and the imbalance plus the possibilities of that f-file don't write off Black's chances entirely.

    20 Rf2 Bxf3
    21 Rxf3 Qxd4+
    22 Qf2
    no 20...Bxf3 21.Rf2
  11. Standard memberhuckleberryhound
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    24 Sep '06 21:42
    Move 18 was a bit of a plum move, that's for sure. 😳
  12. Standard memberAmaurote
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    24 Sep '06 21:43
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    no 20...Bxf3 21.Rf2
    21 ...Bh5
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    24 Sep '06 21:44
    Originally posted by Amaurote
    21 ...Bh5
    so white still has an extra piece.
  14. Standard memberAmaurote
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    24 Sep '06 21:55
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    so white still has an extra piece.
    Yes, I already said that - move 18 was where the game was lost, in and of itself move 19 is far from irretrievable.
  15. Standard memberhuckleberryhound
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    24 Sep '06 22:02
    I seem to be really good at losing well 😕, or so it seems from the feedback from other players. It's making that leap from well fought battle to well fought victory, that seems to be the problem.
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