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    25 May '09 23:45
    Originally posted by Eric LeFavour
    At Qe1, why did you not play f5 instead? It seems you gave up a couple of pieces real quick there. I don't claim to know anything, it just sparked my curiosity?
    Because it wins the h-pawn giving me 3 pawns for my knight.
    After 23....,f5 I thought I'd only have 2 pawns for the piece.
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    26 May '09 00:17
    Originally posted by Romanticus
    Because it wins the h-pawn giving me 3 pawns for my knight.
    After 23....,f5 I thought I'd only have 2 pawns for the piece.
    I see, so there is a little system? With the 3 pawns and the knight? The 4 pieces as a group was the strength you were playing towards?
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    26 May '09 00:36
    Originally posted by Goshen
    Ah... Nimzowitsch would be proud of you.
    Until he saw his blunders 😛


    @Robbie:

    Zukertort- Anglish, London, 1883



    Solve this and tell me that it is not something you find beautiful.
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    26 May '09 00:37
    Originally posted by Eric LeFavour
    I see, so there is a little system? With the 3 pawns and the knight? The 4 pieces as a group was the strength you were playing towards?
    I guess you could put it that way.Though I didn't think in terms of 3 pawns + a knight formation.
    My thoughts went like this: I sacrificed a piece so if I can get 3 pawns in return that is better than 2 pawns.
    Winning the h-pawn was particularly important because it gives me 3 connected passed pawns.
    Knights are the best pawn blockaders and since my chances depend on promoting a pawn,it seemed logical to trade one of the knights for my bishop when I had the chance.It also dislodges one of his pawns.
    An additional,subjective,reason was that I didn't fancy keeping an eye on 2 knights dancing around.
  5. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    26 May '09 00:48
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    Until he saw his blunders 😛


    @Robbie:

    [b]Zukertort- Anglish, London, 1883


    [fen]4k3/p1P3p1/2q1np1p/3N4/n/1Q3PP1/6KP/8[/fen]

    Solve this and tell me that it is not something you find beautiful.[/b]
    Is the position correct? QxQ looks obvious, regardless of who has the move.
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    26 May '09 00:55
    Originally posted by Romanticus
    I guess you could put it that way.Though I didn't think in terms of 3 pawns + a knight formation.
    My thoughts went like this: I sacrificed a piece so if I can get 3 pawns in return that is better than 2 pawns.
    Winning the h-pawn was particularly important because it gives me 3 connected passed pawns.
    Knights are the best pawn blockaders and since my ch ...[text shortened]... ditional,subjective,reason was that I didn't fancy keeping an eye on 2 knights dancing around.
    Knights are the best blockaders of a passed pawn. Multiple connected passed pawns are for the bishop since it can stop all of them at once.
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    26 May '09 01:01
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Is the position correct? QxQ looks obvious, regardless of who has the move.
    Oh whoops. 😳

    Its white to move. The black queen should be on c6 and the white queen of b4 I think. Its from memory but the solution is still the same anyway unless I wrote the fen completely wrong.
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    26 May '09 03:53
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    Oh whoops. 😳

    Its white to move. The black queen should be on c6 and the white queen of b4 I think. Its from memory but the solution is still the same anyway unless I wrote the fen completely wrong.
    wQb4 leads to 1.Qe7#

    I found the position:

    Zukertort-Englisch

    White to play
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    26 May '09 04:463 edits
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    wQb4 leads to 1.Qe7#

    I found the position:

    Zukertort-Englisch
    [fen]4k3/p1P3p1/2q1np1p/3N4/8/1Q3PP1/6KP/8 w - - 0 47[/fen]
    White to play
    Edit: sorry just waking up

    Reveal Hidden Content
    I thought a sidesolution to be 1. Qb8+?? [2. c8=Q 1-0] but simple Kd7!

    Reveal Hidden Content
    I am quite sure the solution that Tomtom is referring to, is 1. Qb5 Qxb5 2. c8=Q+ Kf7 3. Qxe6+ Kxe6 4. Nc7+, so this might well be the correct position...!
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    26 May '09 07:19
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    wQb4 leads to 1.Qe7#

    I found the position:

    Zukertort-Englisch
    [fen]4k3/p1P3p1/2q1np1p/3N4/8/1Q3PP1/6KP/8 w - - 0 47[/fen]
    White to play
    Ok thanks. 🙂

    We should all take a minute and admire the beauty of this position.
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    26 May '09 09:12
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    nonsense, that actual order is

    1. think of something beautiful
    2. look at the board in an appreciative way, the interaction of the pawns and the pieces, that beautiful square beckoning your bishop, that knight outpost, oh, how aesthetically pleasing, the awesome power of an open file,
    3. play with style, creativity and a natural flair! and wat ...[text shortened]... ature, as ideas are born from the fruit of reason and transcend the dawn of banal materialism 🙂
    LOL!
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    26 May '09 09:21
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    Ok thanks. 🙂

    We should all take a minute and admire the beauty of this position.
    ah, finally, as water drips upon a stone with constancy, it ,even after an imperceptible amount of time, may make an indentation 😉

    ok i promise not to litter the chess forum with anymore of these esoteric post - regards to all - Robbie.
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