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  1. 13 Nov '13 19:39 / 1 edit
    Now the players can have a rest day. They deserve it. Exciting stuff.
    That is one risky looking pawn steal by Carlsen.
    If he had lost this people would have comparing it with Fischer's Bishop
    grabbing the Rook Pawn in game one in '72.

    Here is the game I just copied it from Reddif.sports.
    I've no idea who did the notes, perhaps they have been lifted from another site.

  2. 13 Nov '13 21:08
    Carlsen will be kicking himself after that.
  3. 13 Nov '13 21:50
    I don't think so. Carlsen didn't really miss anything did he? It was just that Anand had to play extremely accurately for several moves to avoid getting into trouble, and he managed to do just that.
  4. 13 Nov '13 22:16 / 5 edits
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    I don't think so. Carlsen didn't really miss anything did he? It was just that Anand had to play extremely accurately for several moves to avoid getting into trouble, and he managed to do just that.
    Indeed Anands play was inspiring, he was never 'much worse', as suggested by the annotations to this game. Also 36 ...Rf8 is not the only move that works, the counter-intuitive engine move g5 led to equality which Carlsen never played.

    This game blew everyone's mind, but I had to turn off the commentary, Lawrence Trent is a zombie, Tanya was beautiful but unhelpful, Ramesh was polite and Susan Polgar was talking about children and families, ended up listening to a national master Jerry on twitch TV, was much better.
  5. 13 Nov '13 22:53
    An amazing game, I was a wreck long before it finished.
    I have no idea how they do it. Super humans both.
  6. Standard member hedonist
    peacedog's keeper
    13 Nov '13 23:19
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    ended up listening to a national master Jerry on twitch TV, was much better.
    Yeh, Chessnetwork is much better than the official commentary. Would be good if he had a co-commentator though.
  7. 13 Nov '13 23:21
    Shows what I know. Joined half way through and was shocked by carlsen lack of development. ( had not realised the bishops journey)
    I had thought the anand pressure against lack of development was better for Anand.

    Now I am told Anand was mostly losing
  8. 13 Nov '13 23:23 / 2 edits
    Just a quick reminder that although Anand was White today he will be
    White again on Friday.
    That is for those of you live game hounds that will switch on and think
    you missed a game.

    And what a pawn to nick with 18…Bxa2.


    As the unknown lad above said, we mere mortals don’t even consider such pawn steals.

    Got the feeling that Carlsen will pull out a classic win from this match.
    If he gets a slight plus with no counterplay for Anand then I fear Vishy won’t
    be able to hold it all together.

    Of course the idea of trapping a Bishop on a2 with b3 is well known.
    Too well known.

    brit commando - zakkwylder RHP 2011


    Black took the a2 pawn with 8…Bxa2 and White joyfully played 10.b3 trapping it.
    So Black played….


    10…Ba3 checkmate.

    The opening. That Berlin Wall.

    If you meet it then instead of blindly following theory why not sneak in the 17th move
    6.dxe5 instead of as in the Anand-Carlsen game (and everywhere else) 6.Bxc6.

    Larino (2455) - Krasenkow (2631) 12th Barcelona Open .2009



    The ending.


    The final position of Game 4 Anand v Carlsen.

    A simple book draw and yet…..

    bruc56 (1497) - ianbellchq RHP 2011 Championship

  9. 14 Nov '13 03:52
    Can anyone give some analysis of why the final position is a theoretical draw? What ideas should one keep in mind?
  10. Subscriber Ragwort
    Ex Duris Gloria
    14 Nov '13 08:23
    Originally posted by vishyanand
    Can anyone give some analysis of why the final position is a theoretical draw? What ideas should one keep in mind?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rook_and_pawn_versus_rook_endgame

    Look at the Philidor Position and the Back Rank Defence.
  11. Subscriber moonbus
    Uber-Nerd
    14 Nov '13 10:57
    Hard-fought. Worthy of champions.
  12. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    14 Nov '13 18:10
    56...g4 looks quite vexing imo