Yes, Anand spent so much time on his 23rd move that he played all the moves after that a little too quickly. I can't help but feel that there are at least five players who would have given Carlsen a tougher fight than Anand has. I know that's in the nature of a Challenger needing to beat the Champion, but to be honest Anand has been a bit rubbish.
Originally posted by sundown316Akopian? Did you mean Aronian?
Anand has never been known for his fighting spirit. I think maybe the only 2 guys who might have a realisitic chance against Carlsen at this point are Akopian and Caruana.
My five players who would have put up more a fight than Anand are:
1) Kramnik - playing near his best for the last year or so, he really wants another crack at the title!
2) Nakamura - terrible record against Carlsen, but an exciting player who has improved in the last two years since he's been playing more tournaments with the other Big Boys.
3) Caruana - Younger than Carlsen and seems to do OK against him in head-to-heads.
4) Topolov - Can still play great chess, but seems to lack a little motivation to keep it up for a whole tournament.
5) Ivanchuk - Mad as a hatter and his constant nose-picking might not be good for the TV, but in my opinion the most brilliant player in the world when he has a good day.
I thought the post game press conference was very revealing in what world championship vision is all about.
Whilst the commentary team had been struggling to come up with a defence to the Qh6, Rf4-h4 idea at all, both players had seen a long way past that - similar to the line posted by RECUVIC above - but Anand had thought after Nf1 Qd1 Rh4 Qh5 a later Ne3 (it's on the way to e7 he said) would give him more pressure than the Bf1 line and he had simply overlooked Qe1. All long variations are faulty as they say...
Presumably Anand was a victim of the Kotov syndrome, which happens when a player analyses a line deeply and inconclusively, gets frustrated at not finding quite what he is looking for and plays something else that can all too easily be a blunder.
It was fascinating to watch live, and I really feel for Anand who must have been looking for a clear win when he had his long think around move 23, and not found it after 28. Bf1.
If it had been a longer match perhaps he would have felt less pressure. I hope this is the last 12 game match at this level.
Not much point watching tomorrow. Berlin Defence; 15 moves; shake hands; listen to the Fat Lady singing; then off to the pub.
No more 12-game matches? Ha! Don't bet on it. Anything longer gets very expensive.
Who next for Carlsen? No one really. Only Kramnik at his best could make a match of it. I think Carlsen is champion for as long as he wants it. Two decades maybe.
And India? Poor India! In the space of a week, they lose both Tendulkar and Anand
Originally posted by atticus2It would REALLY suck if they lost the Mars probe too....
Not much point watching tomorrow. Berlin Defence; 15 moves; shake hands; listen to the Fat Lady singing; then off to the pub.
No more 12-game matches? Ha! Don't bet on it. Anything longer gets very expensive.
Who next for Carlsen? No one really. Only Kramnik at his best could make a match of it. I think Carlsen is champion for as long as he wants it. ...[text shortened]... ades maybe.
And India? Poor India! In the space of a week, they lose both Tendulkar and Anand
I didn't know Fat Lady could sing. Give us your best shot, FL🙂
Originally posted by Fat LadyYour right,I meant Aronian,I keep getting him and Akopian mixed up. I agree with your list except for Nakamura,Magnus seems to have the Indian Sign on him. 0-7 is a little hard to explain away.
Akopian? Did you mean Aronian?
My five players who would have put up more a fight than Anand are:
1) Kramnik - playing near his best for the last year or so, he really wants another crack at the title!
2) Nakamura - terrible record against Carlsen, but an exciting player who has improved in the last two years since he's been playing more tournament ...[text shortened]... ood for the TV, but in my opinion the most brilliant player in the world when he has a good day.
Originally posted by sundown316Let's just all agree to pretend the best US player since Fischer at least has a chance against Carlsen.
Your right,I meant Aronian,I keep getting him and Akopian mixed up. I agree with your list except for Nakamura,Magnus seems to have the Indian Sign on him. 0-7 is a little hard to explain away.