Any Queen's Gambit players in here?

Samdogg

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15 Feb 05 17:09

Samdogg

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15 Feb 05 17:09

???????

MIODude

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CaNaDa

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15 Feb 05 17:48

this is all I play now if I can until I get good with it.. not sure how well I stick to the pattern or not though.

Samdogg

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15 Feb 05 17:51

Originally posted by MIODude
this is all I play now if I can until I get good with it.. not sure how well I stick to the pattern or not though.

I find that it has many variations to it. It also has a trap to it if you just a beginner, to fall for.

Ragnorak

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15 Feb 05 18:11

Originally posted by Samdogg
I find that it has many variations to it. It also has a trap to it if you just a beginner, to fall for.

I play queen's gambit against under 1300 players. Don't know much about the theory behind it though.

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ark13

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15 Feb 05 18:11

Originally posted by Samdogg
I find that it has many variations to it. It also has a trap to it if you just a beginner, to fall for.

What is the trap?

Weadley

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15 Feb 05 19:11

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The trap is to win a free shot at the black Rook on a8 let me find a game with it to post.... one second......
Ahhh here it is...

Game 890857

enjoy!

edit.... is my queen trapped? Move time out win... he gave up I reckon.

Samdogg

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15 Feb 05 19:35

Originally posted by Weadley
The trap is to win a free shot at the black Rook on a8 let me find a game with it to post.... one second......
Ahhh here it is...

Game 890857

enjoy!

edit.... is my queen trapped? Move time out win... he gave up I reckon.

Yes but you don't nessecarily get to win his rook, there is a way to avaios it. Instead of moving Qc7 he can either move Nc6 then take the knight then blobk check with his bishop or Bb7 the take the bishop and the move Nd7

MIODude

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CaNaDa

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15 Feb 05 20:21

shhhh.. don't tell them the way out!!

XanthosNZ

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15 Feb 05 22:09

Originally posted by Samdogg
Yes but you don't nessecarily get to win his rook, there is a way to avaios it. Instead of moving Qc7 he can either move Nc6 then take the knight then blobk check with his bishop or Bb7 the take the bishop and the move Nd7

Of course after Nc6 Qxc6+ Bd7 white still is a piece up and on his way to an easy game. I've watched people fall into this trap against me numerous times (from 5 0 blitz online to OTB tournament games).
I'm a QG player though at my level I see much more Indian type games than QGD or QGA.

Testrider

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16 Feb 05 11:54

QG is my favorite opening for white. It's solid but it is also a great opening for a fast win to beginners.

Samdogg

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16 Feb 05 17:37

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Of course after Nc6 Qxc6+ Bd7 white still is a piece up and on his way to an easy game. I've watched people fall into this trap against me numerous times (from 5 0 blitz online to OTB tournament games).
I'm a QG player though at my level I see much more Indian type games than QGD or QGA.

Yes i agree

Samdogg

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23 Feb 05 21:17

????

Weadley

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23 Feb 05 22:24

Thanks for the new ideas guys...
So my queen wouldnt be trapped and also I dont neccasarily win the rook either.

I reckon my queen wouldnt be trapped by the knight or would it though?

Samdogg

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23 Feb 05 22:29

Originally posted by Weadley
Thanks for the new ideas guys...
So my queen wouldnt be trapped and also I dont neccasarily win the rook either.

I reckon my queen wouldnt be trapped by the knight or would it though?

sorry I don't understand

XanthosNZ

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24 Feb 05 01:32

Originally posted by Weadley
Thanks for the new ideas guys...
So my queen wouldnt be trapped and also I dont neccasarily win the rook either.

I reckon my queen wouldnt be trapped by the knight or would it though?

After d4 d5 c4 dxc4 e3 b5 a4 c6 axb5 cxb5 Qf3 Bd7 Qxa8 Nc6 white has Qxd8 trading queens and up a rook.
If Qd7 is played instead then the queen is stuck so to speak but cannot be attacked as the bishop is pinned and the queen and knight are unable to attack it. So white can go back to developing normally and take his time freeing the queen.