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  1. 07 Aug '10 18:36
    Hi, everyone. I'm wondering if there are any unconventional ways to refute the Sicilian that are both uncommon and strong (for mid-teen rated players).

    I don't mind so much if high-level chess theory proves it to be unsound.
  2. 07 Aug '10 18:51
    grand-prix attack.
  3. 07 Aug '10 18:52
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Hi, everyone. I'm wondering if there are any unconventional ways to refute the Sicilian that are both uncommon and strong (for mid-teen rated players).

    I don't mind so much if high-level chess theory proves it to be unsound.
    There is no refutation of the Sicilian, it's darn sound. No one would play it if it wasn't! I think by refutation you simply mean, a playable way to face it?
  4. Standard member Thabtos
    I am become Death
    07 Aug '10 19:03 / 1 edit
    1.d4

    Or more uncommonly,

    1.c4
  5. 07 Aug '10 19:08
    Originally posted by Thabtos
    1.d4

    Or more uncommonly,

    1.c4
    I meant after 1 e4
  6. 07 Aug '10 19:14
    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (d6; Nc6; e6) 3.Bb5 gets you into playable and less elaborated positions.
  7. 07 Aug '10 19:15
    grand prix attack is dynamite, it is a difficult proposition for master players apparently, although little me hasnt tried it out properly.
  8. 07 Aug '10 20:26
    If anyone had a refutation of the Sicilian they wouldnt be posting it here. They'd be out playing for the World Championship.
  9. 07 Aug '10 20:52
    My moms quite good at refuting the sicilian, she has a elo of 2279 currently.
  10. 07 Aug '10 21:06
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (d6; Nc6; e6) 3.Bb5 gets you into playable and less elaborated positions.
    after d6 or Nc6 ok, but after e6 ?
  11. 07 Aug '10 22:38
    try this...1.e4 2.c4 3.b3 4.Bb2 5.d3 6.g3 7.Bg2 8.Bb2 9.00 10.f4....depending on what black plays aim for this type of set up!
  12. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    07 Aug '10 23:07 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by PAWN RIOT
    try this...1.e4 2.c4 3.b3 4.Bb2 5.d3 6.g3 7.Bg2 8.Bb2 9.00 10.f4....depending on what black plays aim for this type of set up!
    To be honest, I did not take this question very seriously (an "eye roll" question), but your answer has changed all that for me.

    It's not just the moves- it's the idea of taking the game into more closed channels along lines of the English/Reti (or even Bird's Opening by transposition)-it may not be a refutation per se, but it most certainly is a refutation of what Black had intended to accomplish on his first move.

    Bravo! Rec'd.

    Paul
  13. 07 Aug '10 23:17
    ...you will find this really throws black works well OTB aswel!...of course make sure you add Nge2 first before 00!
  14. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    07 Aug '10 23:25
    Play an Anti-Sicilian. 😕
  15. 08 Aug '10 01:54
    Originally posted by savage4731
    If anyone had a refutation of the Sicilian they wouldnt be posting it here. They'd be out playing for the World Championship.
    Yeah it's like asking for an easy way to beat the Ruy Lopez.