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White to move

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1-0.

triangles.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
1-0.

triangles.
hmm please explain. I see that white cannot play an immediate Kf5 unless he wants to draw (the queens queen at the same time, however if black can prevent perpetual& trade of the queens he could conceivably win). Kh4 looks to be required...

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They may queen within a move of each other, but I suspect that White will have 1.Qh8+ K to g-file 2.Qg8+ picking up the queen on g1.

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Originally posted by zebano
Kh4 looks to be required...
1.kh4 is met by 1...g6 2.Kg5 Kg7!

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
White to move

[fen]8/5ppk/8/3p2KP/3P2P1/8/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
I like h6 here. I'm probably wrong though.

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Originally posted by zebano
hmm please explain. I see that white cannot play an immediate Kf5 unless he wants to draw (the queens queen at the same time, however if black can prevent perpetual& trade of the queens he could conceivably win). Kh4 looks to be required...
Have a closer look. White's king has f4 and f5 at his disposition. Black's can goto h6, but not match a triangle. Similar possibilities further down the road: the black king has not the space the white king has. White must go for a pawn only when he is enough tempi ahead to queen (with the d-pawn or with the h-pawn, depending on black's choices).

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Have a closer look. White's king has f4 and f5 at his disposition. Black's can goto h6, but not match a triangle. Similar possibilities further down the road: the black king has not the space the white king has. White must go for a pawn only when he is enough tempi ahead to queen (with the d-pawn or with the h-pawn, depending on black's choices).
ahh very clever. I get it now.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Have a closer look. White's king has f4 and f5 at his disposition. Black's can goto h6, but not match a triangle. Similar possibilities further down the road: the black king has not the space the white king has. White must go for a pawn only when he is enough tempi ahead to queen (with the d-pawn or with the h-pawn, depending on black's choices).
So, where did white go wrong here?

Game 1936507

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
So, where did white go wrong here?

Game 1936507
7.Kf7 was a mistake. Instead, 7.Kg7! wins. Threatens to run the h-pawn, making 8. ... f5 impossible.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
7.Kf7 was a mistake. Instead, 7.Kg7! wins. Threatens to run the h-pawn, making 8. ... f5 impossible.
Yep. That's what I found in the morning after realizing that I had erred the previous evening. Thanks.

A mere 25 pages into Dvorestky's Endgame Manual and I feel as if I am just beginning to learn chess.