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  1. 26 Jun '06 23:44
    I have some friends here at the city who play 5 minute chess games,(each player has five minutes on a chess clock), so I used to play them sometimes when I had some free time, but the always won our games, someone told me that you play this kind of chess only if you are already a good player, since you dont have a lot of time to analyze your move, is this way of playing good or bad to learn.

    He also mentioned that plaing online was not good because it is not the same when you have your opponent face to face, so if you get used to play online then you will be unable to play the same out of the net no matter how good you are on it.

    What all of you think about this?
  2. 26 Jun '06 23:50
    Never play blitz.
  3. Standard member coentje
    Plop!
    27 Jun '06 00:26
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    Never play blitz.
    exactly, anything less then 1hr pppg is too fast
  4. 27 Jun '06 00:27
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    Never play blitz.
    Never play losers' Chess, It makes you Blunder in Normal Games

    Never Play Suicide Chess, it makes thing the king is "only" a piece

    Never Play Fischer Random, It makes you forget Opening theory.

    Never Play Crazy House, It makes you think you can put a knight anywhere.

    Never play Atomic, because chess isn't a chemistry lab

    Never Play as Black, it makes you statistically less likly to win.

    Never play Kapasarov, you will never win.


    Oh, and of course, Never play any time control other than the one all the GM's do because it makes you weak.

    ^ Chess is a Game, and if you set out to be world blitz champion corr. is a rather useless endevour - and whats more, lanndonkane's statement would be detrimental

    you should Play chess when and how you want, if you have a particular goal you wish to acchive then you can then work out what is the best way to acheive it.
  5. 27 Jun '06 00:35
    Originally posted by Shinidoki
    Chess is a Game, and if you set out to be world blitz champion corr. is a rather useless endevour - and whats more, lanndonkane's statement would be detrimental
    you should Play chess when and how you want, if you have a particular goal you wish to acchive then you can then work out what is the best way to acheive it.
    You're right.

    I meant to say never play blitz for improvement purposes.
  6. 27 Jun '06 00:52
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    You're right.

    I meant to say never play blitz for improvement purposes.
    But if I wanted to improve my Blitz or Bullet then you are again wrong.
  7. 27 Jun '06 01:49
    Originally posted by Superman
    He also mentioned that plaing online was not good because it is not the same when you have your opponent face to face, so if you get used to play online then you will be unable to play the same out of the net no matter how good you are on it.
    Keep your head down.
  8. Standard member Arrakis
    D_U_N_E
    27 Jun '06 02:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Superman
    I have some friends here at the city who play 5 minute chess games,(each player has five minutes on a chess clock), so I used to play them sometimes when I had some free time, but the always won our games, someone told me that you play this kind of chess only if you are already a good player, since you dont have a lot of time to analyze your move, is this w ...[text shortened]... y the same out of the net no matter how good you are on it.

    What all of you think about this?
    Playing Blitz chess is fun. You don't have to give it up *if* you are capable of mental discipline. Let's face it - even Grandmasters play blitz for fun. Here's some suggestions to help you:

    * If you play blitz, don't play it right before any OTB chess. The problem with blitz is that it conditions your mind to move very fast - instinctively... which is not good for serious chess play.

    * NEVER play blitz at any time during a tournament! There are exceptions - anyone who has mastered mental discipline won't have a problem with this. But the majority of people will continue to move too fast during the tournament game.

    * If you are trying to learn a line of play don't use blitz to test the line unless your opponent is rated a strong expert or above.
  9. 28 Jun '06 00:01
    Originally posted by Shinidoki
    But if I wanted to improve my Blitz or Bullet then you are again wrong.
    Argh!

    You know what I mean.
  10. 28 Jun '06 01:45
    Originally posted by arrakis
    Playing Blitz chess is fun. You don't have to give it up *if* you are capable of mental discipline. Let's face it - even Grandmasters play blitz for fun. Here's some suggestions to help you:

    * If you play blitz, don't play it right before any OTB chess. The problem with blitz is that it conditions your mind to move very fast - instinctively... which is no ...[text shortened]... y don't use blitz to test the line unless your opponent is rated a strong expert or above.
    I might add, that if you find yourself moving too fast in STC that standing up and taking a walk would probably be a good idea.
  11. 29 Jun '06 15:49
    Originally posted by Superman
    I have some friends here at the city who play 5 minute chess games,(each player has five minutes on a chess clock), so I used to play them sometimes when I had some free time, but the always won our games, someone told me that you play this kind of chess only if you are already a good player, since you dont have a lot of time to analyze your move, is this w ...[text shortened]... y the same out of the net no matter how good you are on it.

    What all of you think about this?
    I do remember going to a lecture by GM Susan Polgar. I believe she said that Blitz is ok, because it helps you think under time pressure, but you must play it in moderation. She recommended never playing a game below 7 or 8 mintues, and that out of every 10 games you play, only one of them should be Blitz.
  12. 29 Jun '06 17:40
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    I might add, that if you find yourself moving too fast in STC that standing up and taking a walk would probably be a good idea.
    STC -- standard tournament chess?
  13. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    29 Jun '06 17:51
    Originally posted by LanndonKane
    Never play blitz.
    No, this is wrong! Blitz can be very helpful to a new player. If you play 10, 5 minute games against the same person (preferably stronger) then you can learn a lot in a short time! When i first started playing chess i played on yahoo and improved quickly by doing this. You'll never become a master this way (not alone anyway...) but we learn best by doing. A tactic you find yourself sticks in your mind longer than one you learn from a book. Also, blitz is a good excersise in thinking pragmatically. It is essential to have the ability to make solid decisions within a time control (when you play OTB at club level or in tournaments), blitz presents an ideal form of practise to develop this skill. It has a lot to offer any student of the game.
  14. Standard member Grandmouster
    ChessObsessed
    29 Jun '06 18:02
    Originally posted by Superman
    I have some friends here at the city who play 5 minute chess games,(each player has five minutes on a chess clock), so I used to play them sometimes when I had some free time, but the always won our games, someone told me that you play this kind of chess only if you are already a good player, since you dont have a lot of time to analyze your move, is this w ...[text shortened]... y the same out of the net no matter how good you are on it.

    What all of you think about this?
    My first games on the clock, where in the famed Washington Sq. Park, in NYC. I played one Hustler 10 times before i won a game. Turns out he was the weakest one there..
    I played thousands of blitz and bullet games, and i concluded that, yes it impeades "long term" strategic thinking, and does develop bad habits.
    Going over games of Tal, and Alekhine, with those fantastic combinations, one has to keep in mind, these were moslty "thought up" in a slow game.
    The way to get better at blitz, is to play lots of slow games.
    If you want to develop as a slow player, play only slow games, then for fun, play blitz.
    I gave up on tournament chess for now, and my blitz games are full of blunders, and occasional brilliances.
    Think of Blitz as junk food for chess, and Slow as meat and patatoes
  15. 29 Jun '06 20:28
    i play A LOT of blitz, but for a couple of years i was the captain of my university chess team, and every other week we would have a g/75 4 board match in our league. i was playing 2000 rated players and holding my own and our games usually lasted the full 2.5 hours. after i left the university i had no one to play against so i went back to yahoo and my yahoo rating never goes above 1850 and i have trouble against 1900, granted i usually play 5-10 min games. but that is why i switched to RHP and i find that blitz HAS enforced bad habits in me i usually move within 15 seconds of looking at a board. for a few moves each game i think through combinations carefully then i might take as long as 2-3 min to move but i played a g/25 tournament recently and i got CREAMED.

    on the other hand i did become about a 1700 chess player solely by playing blitz. I think my tactical skills and intuitive analysis are very strong thanks to blitz, and i do use blitz to test new opennings. I think blitz is fun but for a serious player should be kept to a minimum.
    A good slow player usually makes a good blitz player. i don't think there exists a strong blitz player who can't play well(not great but well) in a slow game.

    I think the same goes for chess variants, anti chess is great for seeing ahead, atomic chess makes you consider all your opponents options, bughouse trains you to see tactical possibilities. each has its own value but should be played in moderation and only for fun, the big difference is that suicide is unlikely to train you to give away pieces in a real game but blitz WILL make you play faster and more instinctively very hard not to let blitz skew your judgement.