22 Nov 06
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Originally posted by WulebgrHow did you manage to beat the engine? I do not play blitz games (perefer 30-60 min games), but on yahoo I can tell I am playing a cheater when they seem to take the same amount of time for each move. It took a long time for me to realize this, but it is so obvious from eg a queen exchange, there is only one possible move (ie take back my queen) yet even if time is getting short they will not move for about 20 seconds and of course in a very compicated position (at least for me anyway) they still take about 20 seconds.
In a five minute game, my opponent gave several indications that he was cheating (lag, disconnection, time spent on forced moves, etc.). My suspicions were aroused further when he resigned following my next two moves from
[fen]4r1k1/1b2p3/pq1pPbNp/n1rP1PpP/1p2QP2/3B4/1PP1N3/2KR3R w - - 0 25[/fen]
white to move
22 Nov 06
Originally posted by RagnorakI think he meant 1.fxg5 Bxd5 2.gxf6! resigns because after 2....Bxe4 3.f7+ and 4.fxe8=Q.
eh?
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However, I would imagine that this is just the sort of thing an engine would spot in 1 millisecond, and after 1.fxg5 it would probably suggest 1...Bxg5+
This thread has helped explain why I always had problems getting games on Yahoo. I really like incremental time controls, but no-one would accept my 5/10 or 3/10 games. It seems likely that they thought I was using an engine.
22 Nov 06
Not sure where you played the game but most sites have software that picks up if someone was using an engine, even if the person was lagging or got disconnected just click the claim win on disconnect (playchess has this not sure about other sites). As for places like yahoo you can spot cheaters a mile off due to such high rankings, never lost a game etc
22 Nov 06
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Originally posted by Fat LadyActually after 1.fxg5, 1...Nb3+ looks interesting. E.g. 2.Kb1 Qa5 3.cxb3 Bxb2 4.Kxb2 Qa3+
I think he meant 1.fxg5 Bxd5 2.gxf6! resigns because after 2....Bxe4 3.f7+ and 4.fxe8=Q.
However, I would imagine that this is just the sort of thing an engine would spot in 1 millisecond, and after 1.fxg5 it would probably suggest 1...Bxg5+
22 Nov 06
Originally posted by AudaciousThe site in question employs such software, but that doesn't mean that it picks up all cheaters every time. Nor am I certain that my opponent cheated.
Not sure where you played the game but most sites have software that picks up if someone was using an engine, even if the person was lagging or got disconnected just click the claim win on disconnect (playchess has this not sure about other sites). As for places like yahoo you can spot cheaters a mile off due to such high rankings, never lost a game etc
Running Crafty after the game, I notice that for a few seconds it thought black had the advantage after each of my next two moves, but that it changed its mind after a few seconds--just the sort of position an engine might misplay under time pressure.
Most humans might have played a few moves more, rather than resigning. But the engine's evaluation leaps in favor of white after 3-5 seconds.
22 Nov 06
Originally posted by Fat LadyCrafty spots Bxg5+ quickly, but white still wins after 26.Kb1 Bxd5 27.Qd4 Bf6 28.Nxe7+ Bxe7 29.Rhg1+ Bg5 30.Qf6+
However, I would imagine that this is just the sort of thing an engine would spot in 1 millisecond, and after 1.fxg5 it would probably suggest 1...Bxg5+
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by Fat LadyYou think that is some time ? I like at least 20 min. 20 sec increment.
I think he meant 1.fxg5 Bxd5 2.gxf6! resigns because after 2....Bxe4 3.f7+ and 4.fxe8=Q.
However, I would imagine that this is just the sort of thing an engine would spot in 1 millisecond, and after 1.fxg5 it would probably suggest 1...Bxg5+
This thread has helped explain why I always had problems getting games on Yahoo. I really like incremental time ...[text shortened]... one would accept my 5/10 or 3/10 games. It seems likely that they thought I was using an engine.