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Originally posted by RahimK
[fen]r1bq1rk1/pp1nbppp/2p1pn2/3p4/2PP4/3BPN2/PP1N1PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 8[/fen]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O *

Can someone update the points for me please. I don't have time right now.
Moves I considered for white:

8. b3
8. c5
8. Qc2

Move I chose:

8. c5

Analysis: Cuts off the a2-g8 diagonal for black's dark-squared bishop. Additionally, it cuts off any potential squares for black's d7 knight; with little room to move the minor pieces his development is hindered. I'm thinking this increase in space for white + lead in development should help acquire and maintain the initiative.

Normally I'd not consider such early pawn pushes like this, but in this case I don't consider it a loss of tempo. My second choice would have been 8. Qc2.

Moves I considered for black:

8...Qc7
8...b6

Move I chose:

8...Qc7

Analysis: Black is looking cramped. I wanted to look for ways to further develop the pieces, and to develop those pieces that gain as much space as possible. 8...b6 achieves this with an anticipated 9...Bb7, but it doesn't directly influence any of white's space. I think 8...Qc7 is the only move that attempts to regain some of the influence for black.

The analysis took me about 3 minutes.

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Total Points:

4 Points: Rahim, Wormwood, Stives, BLReid,Golub.
3 Points: Chesswick,Zebano
2 points: cguy1.
1 point: Sickboy
O points: tomtom232

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Originally posted by BLReid
Points after move 7 (I think this is right)

RahimK- 4
Golub- 4
Stives- 4
BLReid- 4
wormwood- 4
zebano- 3
chesswick- 1
cguy1- 2
sickboy- 1
Close, I got 3 for chesswick.

Thanks 🙂

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Originally posted by RahimK
Total Points:

4 Points: Rahim, Wormwood, Stives, BLReid,Golub.
3 Points: Chesswick,Zebano
2 points: cguy1.
1 point: Sickboy
O points: tomtom232
darn't if I would have just gone with what I thought at first but I just couldn't stand people saying that I just copied what other people thought. And has anyone been checking what Fritz has to say after the move is shown.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
darn't if I would have just gone with what I thought at first but I just couldn't stand people saying that I just copied what other people thought. And has anyone been checking what Fritz has to say after the move is shown.
As long as you post your solution before you read others then it okay. Lots of our answers will be the same in the beginning and on forced captures. No big deal, we won't say that you copied 🙂

As for Fritz, no. Pretend this is a real OTB game. If you check with fritz then you might ideas about the next moves which would be cheating. Once the game is over check with fritz if you want but for now all you got is just your brain. No outside help, books, dbs, nothing!

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Originally posted by RahimK
As long as you post your solution before you read others then it okay. Lots of our answers will be the same in the beginning and on forced captures. No big deal, we won't say that you copied 🙂

As for Fritz, no. Pretend this is a real OTB game. If you check with fritz then you might ideas about the next moves which would be cheating. Once the game is over ...[text shortened]... z if you want but for now all you got is just your brain. No outside help, books, dbs, nothing!
thnx I was just wondering but I just started reading and did not know that we weren't supposed to read other posters.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
thnx I was just wondering but I just started reading and did not know that we weren't supposed to read other posters.
Ya I wrote that on the first page.

So what do you think about this position?

I'm closing voting very soon. 15 min. So better hurry up if you want to guess.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Ya I wrote that on the first page.

So what do you think about this position?

I'm closing voting very soon. 15 min. So better hurry up if you want to guess.
Qc2 for white giving him a doubling on the diagonal or I think that they call it a battery threatening the pawn if the knight decides to leave its post the game might end pretty quickly. And I chose Qc7 for black.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Qc2 for white giving him a doubling on the diagonal or I think that they call it a battery threatening the pawn if the knight decides to leave its post the game might end pretty quickly. And I chose Qc7 for black.





1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qc2 dxc4 $2 *

That $2 is suppose to be a ?

The annotator of the game put the ? not me. It might not be the best move but with guess the move if your wrong your wrong so we all lose 1 point for sure 🙁

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Originally posted by RahimK
[fen]r1bq1rk1/pp1nbppp/2p1pn2/8/2pP4/3BPN2/PPQN1PPP/R1B2RK1 w - - 0 9[/fen]




1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. Qc2 dxc4 $2 *

That $2 is suppose to be a ?

The annotator of the game put the ? not me. It might not be the best move but with guess the move if your wrong your wrong so we all lose 1 point for sure 🙁
Why don't you use the move of the annotator.

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9.Nxc4 Nd5

Comments: Nxc4 so the bishop and queen can remain on the strong diagonal and the Knight can add further support to e5 and allows the bishop on c1 more room to develop in the future.

9...Nd5 with the plan of placing the other knight on f6. If 10.e4 then Nb4 forking the bishop and queen and one of them has to come of the board.

2 minutes.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Why don't you use the move of the annotator.
Huh? We are following the master game. I'm not going to read the comments till the whole game is over. We are playing the white side and what ever black played in the game, that's what i'm playing for black.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Huh? We are following the master game. I'm not going to read the comments till the whole game is over. We are playing the white side and what ever black played in the game, that's what i'm playing for black.
but why would we lose a point for not guessing a wrong move.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Total Points:

4 Points: Rahim, Wormwood, Stives, BLReid,Golub.
3 Points: Chesswick,Zebano
2 points: cguy1.
1 point: Sickboy
O points: tomtom232
Total Points (Max possible 6)

5 Points: Rahim, Stives, BLReid,Golub,
4 Points: Wormwood,
3 Points: Chesswick,Zebano
2 points: cguy1.
1 point: Sickboy, tomtom232
O points: flexmore

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Originally posted by tomtom232
but why would we lose a point for not guessing a wrong move.
That's the way guess a move works. You have to guess the exact moves. If the annotator hadn't put the ? mark then I wouldn't have know dxc4 was a mistake.

Next time I won't add the ? etc... then they will be no problems 🙂