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7. O-O, O-O - 1 minute

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2:30 more hours. Some interesting ideas here so far.

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Are you going by GMT for you closing times? Or are you going on Canadian time?

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Originally posted by Stives
Are you going by GMT for you closing times? Or are you going on Canadian time?
Mountain time, I'm in alberta canada.

GMT -6 I got my Rhp settings at.

I'm posting the next moves now. Gotta get to class soon.

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1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O *

Can someone update the points for me please. I don't have time right now.

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8.Qc2 Qc7

White from a battery with bishop and queen aiming at h7 and defending c4 and e4 once more.

Black is aiming to play e5 at some point and freeing up his position.

3 minutes.

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After opening with the Queen's Gambit, I think white is moving towards a Colle type set up. I might be completely wrong here, but I vote 8.Qc2 h6 as the next two moves.

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Originally posted by RahimK
[fen]r1bq1rk1/pp1nbppp/2p1pn2/3p4/2PP4/3BPN2/PP1N1PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 8[/fen]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O *

Can someone update the points for me please. I don't have time right now.
I'm thinking about N-b3 to attack c5 (or post to eventually), make room to develop the bishop. Also helps pen Black's Queen. Also considering h3 to hem in Black's Knight. c5 possibly to cramp in Black's Knight and Bishop.

At this point I'm leaning towards N-b3 because development is crucial.

8. N-b3 b6 - 10 minutes

Edit: After reading some comments I now think Q-c2 is better, but I'll stick with my original analysis. Here to learn.

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8. Qc2 has the dual benefit of increasing pressure on the b1-h7 diagonal and influencing the c-file. It leaves white flexible.

For Black's response, I think perhaps 8...b6 to prepare Bb7 and Rc8.

Total time, about 10 minutes, most of which was spent trying to figure out an idea for Black.

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Points after move 7 (I think this is right)

RahimK- 4
Golub- 4
Stives- 4
BLReid- 4
wormwood- 4
zebano- 3
chesswick- 1
cguy1- 2
sickboy- 1

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Originally posted by RahimK
[fen]r1bq1rk1/pp1nbppp/2p1pn2/3p4/2PP4/3BPN2/PP1N1PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 8[/fen]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Nbd2 Nbd7
6. Bd3 Be7 7. O-O O-O *

Can someone update the points for me please. I don't have time right now.
8. e4 dxe4

White threatens to play e5 when the knight is driven away and white has a free hand on the kingside.

if dxc4, Nxc4 and the threat of e5 remains (black does gain long-term compensation, but must survive the attack) however with e5 and Nc4 white is free to play Nd6 should the bishop ever try to move.

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8. Qc2, Re8 - 10 minutes

Makes sense for white to cover e4 and at the same time influence the queen side a bit, where he got the advantage. Black prepares e5 or maybe Nf8/Bf8, covering up the kingside and preparing to counter in the center.

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I'll post the solution at 4 pm my time, 7 hours from now.

GMT -6.

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b3

i feel that white has an extremely difficult point and that is the square c1 where a bishop is trapped ... lets do anything we can to get it off there .. let the a1 rook out and get the bishop active too.

(or e4 but that is not my style)

edit - looking at it further i think e4 is the "best' move .. but i would not enjoy playing it myself ... and i would also not play it either, i guess i have something to learn but do not want to.

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Originally posted by flexmore
b3

i feel that white has an extremely difficult point and that is the square c1 where a bishop is trapped ... lets do anything we can to get it off there .. let the a1 rook out and get the bishop active too.

(or e4 but that is not my style)

edit - looking at it further i think e4 is the "best' move .. but i would not enjoy playing it myself ... and i would also not play it either, i guess i have something to learn but do not want to.
I agree with you that the Bishop on c1 looks like it could become a problem child. I think that the correct way to go about it is to prepare e4, which opens the diagonal for the Bishop. I don't like the immediate e4, and therefore opted for Qc2, which is a very flexible move. White would prefer to see black play dxc before he moves ahead with e4, because then the e4 pawn is more difficult for Black to challenge. You make a very valid point, IMO, that the Bishop needs to be considered. Generic developing moves aren't good enough.

But what do I know, I've tossed nearly 100 points in recent weeks. These are just my thoughts. 🙂