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I recently started playing a lot of games, having not played on the site for a long time. As you can see from my rating, I probably shouldn't even be allowed to post in this forum, but here goes...

I have started to enjoy playing massively agressively, trying to blast holes in my opponent's defence and see what the results are.

I wanted to post this game (for your undoubted viewing pleasure) as I got a real satisifaction seeing how exposing my opponent's King via an early bishop sacrifice really can pay off at the the level I'm playing...

Game 2400069

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Nice quick kill 🙂

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Originally posted by Gorgar
Nice quick kill 🙂
If you could choose which side to play after 6...Bxf2, is there any real choice, or should it always be correct to choose white?

I guess I'm wondering if agressive play like this has any foundation, or if it is just a "hit and hope" strategy.

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Originally posted by Sicilian Smaug
Your sac was unsound, these Bishops sacs are intended when you have a few pieces to follow up the sac.
So the Bishop takes the f pawn- or the h pawn on the castled King- so that one of the pawn defenders is gone and the attacked King is deplaced, it is important to have other pieces - usually including the Queen to follow up the attack in a brutal an ...[text shortened]... nd sound is very uselul - V.Vukovic " Art of attack in Chess" has a brilliant chapter on this.
Thank you - very interesting.

I will certainly get myself a copy of that book.

It felt unsound at the time, but it was just so damn tempting 🙂

Must control the red mist...

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Originally posted by Chris
I recently started playing a lot of games, having not played on the site for a long time. As you can see from my rating, I probably shouldn't even be allowed to post in this forum, but here goes...

I have started to enjoy playing massively agressively, trying to blast holes in my opponent's defence and see what the results are.

I wanted to post this gam ...[text shortened]... ly bishop sacrifice really can pay off at the the level I'm playing...

Game 2400069
It seems to me that your sac was a bit premature. If you opponant had developed his knight to f3 and maybe bought his rook out in preparation for moving the king back into a defensive position, I can't see you really having a forced positional advantage, or some kind of winning attack.

IMO you should have waited until you had developed a few more pieces so that you could back up your sac. Perhaps having your queen out would have made it more "secure". Just my opinion but I guess SicilianSmaug has hit the nail on the head better than me.

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Originally posted by Chris
If you could choose which side to play after 6...Bxf2, is there any real choice, or should it always be correct to choose white?

I guess I'm wondering if agressive play like this has any foundation, or if it is just a "hit and hope" strategy.

[fen]r1bqk2r/pppp1ppp/2n2n2/4p3/1PP1P3/P1N5/3P1bPP/R1BQKBNR w QKqk - 0 6[/fen]
If I wanted to win I'd choose white.Your sac only worked cause your oppo made some grave errors.
Still a nice quick kill though,not your fault your oppo made mistakes 🙂

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Originally posted by Chris
I recently started playing a lot of games, having not played on the site for a long time. As you can see from my rating, I probably shouldn't even be allowed to post in this forum, but here goes...

I have started to enjoy playing massively agressively, trying to blast holes in my opponent's defence and see what the results are.

I wanted to post this gam ...[text shortened]... ly bishop sacrifice really can pay off at the the level I'm playing...

Game 2400069
Ooh, nice combo. Whites move, Nd5? was well punished. 🙂

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Originally posted by Chris
I guess I'm wondering if agressive play like this has any foundation, or if it is just a "hit and hope" strategy.
The answer to this question is a mixture of logic and experience. You HAVE to see a definate advantage that is gained by sacrafice. The problem is that you'll never gain enough judgement of what an advantage actually IS unless you try these things out. Make mistakes and learn from them, it's the only way. Sometimes the player with the most balls wins, even if they don't play the best chess. 😉

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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
Ooh, nice combo. Whites move, Nd5? was well punished. 🙂
8. Nd5 was when the red mist changed into pure blood lust... 🙂

A problem I've always had playing chess was a feeling of being completely lost after about seven or eight moves, as the game seems to move away from strategical positioning and move towards a more even combination of strategy and tactics.

It is certainly helping me to start to try experiments when the game reaches this stage - trying to make things happen rather than waiting to see whether my position is solid. I'm finding that just 'considering' some crazy moves makes me see things that I really would never otherwise have seen and I probably end up making a more sound move as a result (although not in this case, clearly 🙂 )

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sorry, but I'd have to classify your Bxf2+ as a total blunder. With correct play, white could've won easily.

here's a game where my opponent tried the same idea, with a more realistic result: Game 2378537

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
sorry, but I'd have to classify your Bxf2+ as a total blunder. With correct play, white could've won easily.

here's a game where my opponent tried the same idea, with a more realistic result: Game 2378537
Yes - I can see clearly now that it was an error.

Probably a quite instructive thing for me to do would be to try to play white in this position (following Bxf2) against an engine and see if I can maintain an advantage.

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i'd be willing to play the position as black

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
i'd be willing to play the position as black
Great - I would like to try this.

I tried to challenge you with this position, but you are at your maximum challenge limit.

If you would like to play this, please send me a challenge with White to play from after Bxf2.

-Chris

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Originally posted by Chris
If you could choose which side to play after 6...Bxf2, is there any real choice, or should it always be correct to choose white?

I guess I'm wondering if agressive play like this has any foundation, or if it is just a "hit and hope" strategy.

[fen]r1bqk2r/pppp1ppp/2n2n2/4p3/1PP1P3/P1N5/3P1bPP/R1BQKBNR w QKqk - 0 6[/fen]
if your pawn on d7 was on d6 this would make a big difference, though i am not sure that it would be sound even with that change in the position.

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