This is a position from an OTB tournament I just played in. It was against a friend of mine (User 380488) and since he normally beats me rather soundly, I was quite happy with a draw as white. However, I am curious as to whether I should have played for the win. The position I've shown was repeated three times, he kept moving his king to either side of his knight and I kept checking with my rook so he moved back behind his knight and I reestablished the pin. Is there something else I should have done?
Originally posted by mrjonesvich321 This is a position from an OTB tournament I just played in. It was against a friend of mine (User 380488) and since he normally beats me rather soundly, I was quite happy with a draw as white. However, I am curious as to whether I should have played for the win. The position I've shown was repeated three times, he kept moving his king to eith ...[text shortened]... Is there something else I should have done?
I should mention it's black to move, but assume he would move his king to whichever side of his knight you want (Kf7 or Kh7, because he played both of those just previous to the end of the game, and I failed to obtain any advantage), then play on as white.
Originally posted by mrjonesvich321 I should mention it's black to move, but assume he would move his king to whichever side of his knight you want (Kf7 or Kh7, because he played both of those just previous to the end of the game, and I failed to obtain any advantage), then play on as white.
Originally posted by mrjonesvich321 This is a position from an OTB tournament I just played in. It was against a friend of mine (User 380488) and since he normally beats me rather soundly, I was quite happy with a draw as white. However, I am curious as to whether I should have played for the win. The position I've shown was repeated three times, he kept moving his king to eith ...[text shortened]... Is there something else I should have done?
[fen]6k1/6n1/p3p1R1/1pr3BP/8/2P5/PKP5/8 b [/fen]
What about leaving your rook where it is on g6 and pinning his knight to the king with your bishop? If ...Kh8, then Bf6, or if ...Kf8, then Bh6. If ...Rc7 on the next move (trying to protect the knight), then you play h6.
Originally posted by Mad Rook What about leaving your rook where it is on g6 and pinning his knight to the king with your bishop? If ...Kh8, then Bf6, or if ...Kf8, then Bh6. If ...Rc7 on the next move (trying to protect the knight), then you play h6.
Originally posted by mrjonesvich321 This is a position from an OTB tournament I just played in. It was against a friend of mine (User 380488) and since he normally beats me rather soundly, I was quite happy with a draw as white. However, I am curious as to whether I should have played for the win. The position I've shown was repeated three times, he kept moving his king to eith ...[text shortened]... Is there something else I should have done?
[fen]6k1/6n1/p3p1R1/1pr3BP/8/2P5/PKP5/8 b [/fen]
If Kh8? then Bf6 Rc7 h6 wins the knight
If 1..Kf8 2.Bh6 Rc7 3.Bxg7 Rxg7 4.Rxg7 Kxg7 5.c4! bxc4 6.Kc3 Kh6 7.Kd4! Kxh5 8.Ke5 and from here white has a clear won game.
If 5..Kh6 6.cxb5 axb5 7.c4! bxc4 8.a4! and white has a clear won game
Edit: Jeremy silmans complete endgame course is awsome😉
Originally posted by wittywonka Since nobody seems to be reading closely, let me restate what I believe the author is attempting to communicate.
White to move:
[fen]8/5kn1/p3p1R1/1pr3BP/8/2P5/PKP5/8[/fen]
Be7 Kxe7 Rxg7+ Kd6 h6 Rh5 h7 and white enters a complex endgame with black having a backward isolated pawn, and white having a rook pawn. and white having a negligible advantage on the kingside.
Originally posted by mrjonesvich321 Okay so we've established that Kf8 loses. I'm comforted that nobody sees a win if Kf7 or Kh7 so the draw was a good result.
Yeah, from a patzer point of view, I wouldn't have felt bad with the draw as White, even though I had an extra pawn. (White does have doubled pawns.)
Originally posted by Adorea Be7 Kxe7 Rxg7+ Kd6 h6 Rh5 h7 and white enters a complex endgame with black having a backward isolated pawn, and white having a rook pawn. and white having a negligible advantage on the kingside.
What about after Be7 Rxh5? Doesn't that just lose a pawn for white?
Originally posted by Adorea Be7 Kxe7 Rxg7+ Kd6 h6 Rh5 h7 and white enters a complex endgame with black having a backward isolated pawn, and white having a rook pawn. and white having a negligible advantage on the kingside.
1. Be7 Rxh5
Edit: Didn't see mrjonesvich321's earlier response.