Caro-Kann vs French Defense

Which is better? Just kidding. I don't want a flamewar. I'm curious, which do you like playing against more?

Originally posted by exigentsky
Which is better? Just kidding. I don't want a flamewar. I'm curious, which do you like playing against more?

i hate using them both

equally?

There's something about moving a pawn forward only 1 square that make me think "coward!!!!!" 😉😀😀

I wouldn't say that about the French. It gives White chances to attack and straddles black with a less than perfect bishop in order to get a fierce attack on the Queen side. Each side has a lot of imbalances. You have to be pretty courageous to accept all that. However, I think you're partially right about c6. When black plays c6, he basically says "I want a safe game and you won't get past my fortress." The idea is not some crazy counterattack or creating imbalances, it is surviving and if White makes a few errors, Black can get some strong play, often with c6-c5.

yup yup. i hate playing against them both. for that i'm transferring to d and c pawn openings ;-) although i will miss playing a good sicilian ;-)

Originally posted by kmac27
yup yup. i hate playing against them both. for that i'm transferring to d and c pawn openings ;-) although i will miss playing a good sicilian ;-)

Yeah, I like playing against both actually - I use the advanced against both as well, I finished a slow game against the Caro-Kann on here earlier, I posted it in the thread "Oh how quickly..." if anybody is interested in seeing how I play against the CK.

French all the way! I've been playing with the french for a few weeks and i find that if white has litle experiance against it, it will be a win for black. I think I'm 6W 0L 1D with it so far, alot better then my results with 2.e5, i've never played the caro-kann

edit: wait, i reread your question, and I don't play 1.e4, sorry

Originally posted by hammster21
French all the way! I've been playing with the french for a few weeks and i find that if white has litle experiance against it, it will be a win for black. I think I'm 6W 0L 1D with it so far, alot better then my results with 2.e5, i've never played the caro-kann

I could destroy your French...Frenchie.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
I could destroy your French...Frenchie.

I'm american and no you couldn't

Originally posted by hammster21
I'm american and no you couldn't

That's what all of those other French players thought...

Originally posted by cmsMaster
That's what all of those other French players thought...

I'm not one of those other French players though. Maybe after i get a few more games under my belt we'll see if you can add me to that list

Originally posted by hammster21
I'm not one of those other French players though. Maybe after i get a few more games under my belt we'll see if you can add me to that list

If you really want to lose - I mean, that is a bit sadistic.

lmao, how is someone going to lose to the milner-barry suicide?

On another note, Caro-kann is pretty cool. You don't get the hemmed in bishop, but White gets much freedom.

Originally posted by Zander 88


On another note, Caro-kann is pretty cool. You don't get the hemmed in bishop, but White gets much freedom.

I guess it kinda depends on the variation of the French. I've never really had any problems with underdevelopment. Even though it is blocked in at the beginning, your opponent still has to try to find some way to exploit that.